Holy Soldier

Persistent World

I don't quite see the point of making it a multiverse with jump-in. At that point, it might become a risk that people screw over previous lore by making their own that contradicts other lores. Also, it'd defeat the purpose of making it persistent to begin with. Making something without permanent consequence or interactivity means you may as well start your own RP in free/casual/advanced.

@Ammokkx

In a Multiverse, the consequences are dictated by the User. Say for example, “You make this dragon slayer who has slayed even dragon gods.” A player may see this character and get inspired to create a dragon god that gives the dragon slayer a hard time. The arena elements then come into play here. A lot of the conflict is handled between players. While ideas may at times contradict and can be pointed out, “Hey, there’s already a faction with said idea maybe you should join it,” seeing as there are so many Rps that occur already with similar ideas, what makes them unique is that they are all ran differently.

The Multiverse is per interactivity because it exists on the players. I have mentioned two types of people in all RP: the writer and the role player. The writer can create the world, characters, NPCs, and basically carry on with little guidance because they are writers. The role player needs a dungeon master because they can’t write without guidance. The Multiverse often has both types. The leading players are the writers who founded the faction, nation, planet, etc and who are leading that group. The role players will often be under said leader and they get their pseudo-DM guidance in that manner.

But regardless, it was just an idea.

Expanding Horizons is a neat idea, but the Guild doesn't really have the playerbase to support it in a healthy manner. A project like it reminds me a lot of forums dedicated to RPing one specific setting, which often end up failing after a year or two, if they're lucky. There's some exceptions, but those tend to also be incredibly huge, which E.H. isn't.

@Ammokkx

I heard that one of the issues with it was that it wasn't really an Open World because there was a story everyone was required to adopt. By making it an open world that people can just "jump-in," I think it would get more life.

Persistent World

Persistent World

Purpose

The purpose of this discussion is to talk about possible revision or deletion of the Persistent World section, which has been highly debatable for quite the while. Users unable to have a civil conversation will be reported to forum staff. If you are a user who cannot disagree with another user without without getting offended, angry, or upset, then you will be asked to leave.

Proposed Revision

This is my proposed idea for it seeing as it is already a persistent world. It was mentioned to me that it wasn’t an “open world” really meaning that anyone or anything can participate in the idea, but it’s still persistent. There are many roleplaying games on this site that are multiversal and open to anyone using the “jump-in” option. The Persistent World can easily just be made into an open Multiverse for those kinds of games. Multiverses are self-regulating. Players can create: planets, kingdoms, factions, clans, nations, religions, and gods. There is little worry about there being an “overpowered” entity in the game seeing as every overpowered entity is often rivaled by another. These rivalries are what balance the game and create a natural “light vs dark” (not to literally imply good vs evil – subjective).

Multiverses are open genre meaning you can have sci-fi, fantasy, western, etc. in the universe. Multiverses also have no segregation when it comes to writing ability. Both the Free, Casual, and Advanced writers should be able to write in there without problem. The MV also provides a home for "main characters" characters that writers create and cannot find a RP or seem to be able to make a RP where they will fit.

Of course whether or not people will join any game, idea, or adopt any new feature presented by the Guild is always debatable. But it is a solution as opposed to completely deleting the forum and the work players have already put into it. There are also players who continue to write there and their feelings about it should matter and not be dismissed.

World-Building Section

@Poiroleplayerguild.com/topics/49973-lets…

Bam.

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@Holy Soldier I have seen no arguments, and any arguments I have seen failed to convince me of the dire need to have this new sub-forum. I have asked a moderator for the estimate of how likely the addition of any new sub-forum was and it was estimated to be low to non-existent.

Nobody has been raging - that may be a misreading of the situation on your side.
Nobody has been trolling - that may have been a misreading of the situation on your end.

Everyone has written disagreements, but were dismissed by you. It seems natural that in their dismissal they dismiss you too. That you choose to write that off as trolling purely because they disagree is an error in your own reasoning, not ours. Following your disability to behave normally and act without dismissing anyone as troll, I will once again request the moderators to lock this thread before it can escalate into a real flamewar. If you want to flame we can do so on discord in private or in my server. Otherwise,

@Ruby @Rilla @Meth Quokka @NuttsnBolts @Sherlock Holmes Please read the thread/last few pages and determine whether or not this thread deserves to keep living - my own assessment is that we've passed the point of redemption for this specific thread.

@Odin

That fact you are insinuating that you plan to make this into a flame war proves my point. lol

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@PoiIt's not actually a surprise since the same people who argue and troll the Rp Lounge are doing the same thing here. If you were surprised by that, I'm not lol. But it would be nice if those people weren't commenting here because then a normal discussion would be able to occur as it did for a few pages before they brought their dirty laundry.

World-Building Section

@OdinI answered your comments. You are welcome to go back and read. I'd only be repeating myself. I even posted a condensed version of everything I've previously discussed since it was lost in all the raging and trolling.

You guys need to learn the difference between disagreements and then trolling. Because if all you wrote were disagreements, then this thread would have never became so negative and hostile.

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@PoiI've given you counter-points to your points and you've not read them but continued to post your misunderstandings. Then you get upset. As the OP says, if you get upset, then you don't need to be in here and that no one should entertain you.

World-Building Section

You can't just opt to shut down a thread you don't like. I do have another thread to discuss another topic and if you guys try to troll it, seeing your trend with this one, it'll be made obvious. There's disagreeing and then there's trolling. Trolling is when you are no longer interested in contributing to the discussion and are just trying to get your way, ie. the shutting down of the thread, because "you" are done with it. This is an open discussion. It can be open just like all the other threads are open and you do not have to post in it.

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As I said, if you don't like this discussion, you don't have to be involved in it. Asking the Moderators to shut down this discussion because you don't like it, is just going to have me put up another so that I can have a pleasant conversation without you making it your mission to not contribute but to shut it down.

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Why are you asking the primary critic of the idea to leave, while you, its primary supporter, continue to post things? Are you not adding more by posting?

@ArenaSnow

You're not adding more by posting lol.

And further, why completely bypass my questions simply to attack my presence? It leads to an easily formed perception that you're trying to get rid of an irksome pest who is disagreeing with you.

@ArenaSnow

You feel attacked because I pointed out how you have been repeating the same comments and haven't really evolved your discussion? Since you were getting so offended and upset, I said maybe you should ignore this conversation since it offends you so much.

Including you. If you have something new to add, it stands to reason that perhaps I have something new to add. And I have unanswered points.

@ArenaSnow

You haven't added anything new lol.

Hardly. It takes two minutes for me to make a reply, in between preparing to go to work (speaking for this morning). I strongly believe that this change is not needed. You plainly believe otherwise. So long as we're both in this thread and replying (you replying to others, me making a response to you) then perhaps there is still something to talk about.

And really, if we ran out of things to talk about, the next step would be to bring in the silent supporters who have been utterly absent thus far. As I said to someone in PM on the same matter on discord,

@ArenaSnow

This right here ^ is about you feeling like you're contributing to the conversation when you're trying to destroy it because you don't agree with this discussion even existing. Therefore, I offered that you not bother with it since you're clearly now just talking about how you are "replying" and not how you are replying to the topic "World-Building."

The supporters have refused to enter this thread because of the hostility you and the other players who normally troll the discussion forums have shown. They do not want to get involved. So when I was saying they would because it seemed like they would post, they chose not to because of the negative atmosphere. I am trying to get rid of that negative atmosphere to turn this back into a pleasant discussion whether people agree or disagree. Even with the former writers disagreeing, they were able to do so civilly. The people who have left so far were not civil and I'm glad they left. If you're the next one, then that just puts more positivity back on this discussion.

But I'm not going to continue to "entertain" you if you are offended. If I choose not to respond to you, then I'm sorry. It's something you'll just have to deal with.