KoL

Deep Ground Online (Hiatus)

While it saddens me to come to the point where I have to say this, I'll be taking a break from this RP after my characters' current scenes/interactions are done.

I'm not dropping, so you don't need to try to convince me to stay, I'm just tired and this RP is frankly causing me an undue amount of stress. A rest is well needed. Depending on how the IC goes, I might be out for no more than a month, maybe two. But I'll certainly come back refreshed, or so I hope.

I'll still be reading/keeping up, I just won't really take part, BTW, unless you really need me as a GM.

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@Rune_Alchemist

Well, I'm sorry that it had to be this way, instead of you giving us another chance to set things right. We were only trying to reach a solution that would be the best for everyone, but sadly no solution can please everyone. I understand that it's a burden to bear to accept some seemingly illogical or unfunny situations for the good of a collective story, but that's a thing that must happen (and I speak of experience) if you want to have a story that doesn't depends only of you or us.

I sure wish that we can RP again, but I'll also ask you to reconsider such a drastic measure, if you find it on yourself to do so. We all do mistakes, working them out is what generally is important.

On my end, while I don't think it's a perfect excuse, I have to ask your forgiveness for the fact that RL isn't very forgiving with my schedule.When I was able to read your post, there were already replies to it, asking for a change would imply a series of edits. If you simply didn't wanted Gwynn to surrender, you could have done so and come back to the fight 04 posts later.

In the end it was all a misunderstand that just escalated because we all were kinda hotheaded.

Either way, I hope to see you again, if that's what you.

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@LokiLeo789

I'm not talking about that, you can use your advantage, just as we did. But, using said advantage in such a way, negated you one possible use of you trump card, so you can't complain with us about that.

The battle has to have a definitive and homogeneous end point to make it fair and controlled, so the most we can do is give a few more turns to everyone, yet, I think that more than 05 is too much. That's a matter that should be judged by @TheWindel, in the end. For now, let's work with what has been already established.

Also, if this discussion is bound to continue, I ask that it be handled on a PM. We've been dragging for more than 08 hours. It's about time this issue should have been solved already.

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@KoL
I don't mind losing, if its done logically and believably. Honestly, though, this has gotten a bit off of my original concern of having three more posts with everyone be far too short of a time to conclude this.

...I'd also like to ask why I wasn't informed of this when I asked in the Angel PM thread if it was logical Gwynn would know the same route Diana took to get into the ship. If it wasn't, I wouldn't even have made an attempt to do that.

@Rune_Alchemist

Because I thought that people would notice it, if they read my posts? I'm not even using random, complicated language to write them and still only a few persons get it.

Aside from that, it was because one had to think that it would (even if you disregard the above stuff) be logical that you can't run at god awful speeds inside of a mile long military ship, full of cramped spaces, tight curves and resistance. I mean, while the others on the ship encounter blockades and bulkheads everywhere, for Gwynn it was just a matter of "I slice everything on the way and get there in one post" how could I foresee that you would do that?

@LokiLeo789

Huh? I don't know, had out every occurred to you that, maybe you guys could have used it to, count the Demons, who are the ones weak to the Angels?

Like, using it to, severely damage the Elicitor (maybe even immobilize/silence its AA fire for a bit it while mechanics are forced to patch the damage to the ship) and more or less granted to kill Graf (who was the great deterrent on the Machina side), wipe out the NPC demon army (which is their main mode of attack), forcing them to activate their trump early to replenish their numbers to ineffective results and destroy Victoire's traps (maybe even kill her, depending on the side of the blast), but of course no. Your characters are so goddamn OP that you did it on your own, without even breaking a sweat, negating one of the uses fro your own weapon. Even now, you could use it to unearth the Elicitor and try to storm it on a surprise attack, while the guns are still getting ready for AA fire.

But no, what you want is divine nuclear holocaust, to blast the Elicitor and the demons to smithereens, and nothing else, is what you'll accept. Well, but there's a sad fact about trump cards and counters, the more you hold them back, the higher their value, but the lower are the chances to use them effectively. You took the risk of waiting, and now are reaping the results, simply put.

We don't give you suggestions on how to use your things, just give them to you. Don't complain if you misuse, or fail to capitalize on it for lack of foresight. Simply because you guys are believing that the Angels have the right to brute force everything and everyone, doesn't mean hat it's true.

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@Rune_Alchemist

PS: If Diana knew the ship's layout, she wouldn't be searching for an exit. She would be reaching for an exit. I never made it look like she knew it on my posts. She even stole some info to try and help her navigate! Heh.

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@Rune_Alchemist@LokiLeo789

Ok, let me be frank with you two. You guys are starting to sound just like you are kids who don't know that no one can win every time. Someone gotta lose that battle, y'know?

The Angels were at a disadvantage because of the Elicitor? Yes, because that's supposed to be their type disadvantage.

The Machina had the advantage of superior fire power and defenses? Yeah, again expected because that was the scenario for this battle. Yet, it meant absolutely nothing for the flyboys/girls that just dodged cannon fire and flak and laser and many more nasty stuff w/o a single scratch, only ever acknowledging Graff's attacks (but not taking any real damage for quite a few posts).

The Demons had the upper hand (or were supposed to)? Yeah... because they are the ones supposed to be strong against Machina and the Demon characters played to type much more close than the Angels, trying to find ways to circumvent their disadvantage with every post.

I mean, Gwynn is good, but you should know when much is too much. And, right now, there's about nothing she can do to free herself that wouldn't result in death or grievous injury. Plus a very dishonorable behavior, to turn your weapons to the enemy after you pledged surrender. Literally a dick move worth of a low Demon. Practically ignoring that the Elicitor is a mile long huge ship whose schematics she doesn't know wasn't cool, though.

However, Raziel and Azaezel, just popped on the battlefield and owned everyine and everything in the spam of one post each, more or less. I mean, it's nice (actually very nice) that you like your characters and we do like them as well and they are commanders and such but, this doesn't excuse destroying a spell that was active for most of the battle in one fell swoop while ignoring the bats that were sent to harass the flying targets or trying to completely disregard your weaknesses with a "Holy EMP" isn't very acceptable.

Can't you guys accept the defeat (if that's eve going to happen) with a bit of grace and try to, I don't know... win the next battle? Like I said, nobody can win always, why does it have to be you on this scenario,when you are at such a disadvantage?

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At an unrelated note @Ryonara, if Diana changes sides, you can expect her to have this as her engineer uniform:

All's in the skillful hands of the Sisters, now.

Deep Ground Online (Hiatus)

@KoL Not sure, but I think you're up for a post.

@Mega Birb

I'm working on it. It should be out this weekend, at most since this week I didn't had much of a day off to work on posts.

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@KoL

Cool. I also peeked at Diana's CS and noticed that she could grant the power of the mantle to anyone she see's. It's a bit meta gamey so I won't act on it, but maybe Diana could use the mantle to help Shizuka fight against the demons?

@Ryonara

She could try to do that of she saw the demons, but there's a tiny little thing that's in the way.

I might like having my characters gagged way more than its healthy, but going is that activating powers while your mouth is stuffed with rubber is kinda hard, y'know?

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@KoL

Would it be effective against demons in Shizuka's hands at least? She is a Holy Spirit. If not that's fine with me too, she just needs something better than a knife and her pistol to use against the demons. Also, I'll be fine if your demons do end up fighting Hibiki and Shizuka soon. Though I should warn you that when I do post they'll be in their full combat gear and much tougher than they would be without it.

@Ryonara

Sorry for the late reply, I was at college. Anyway, it would be effective, yes. The sword doesn't work only for Diana, after all, it's a borrowed weapon.

The only ones that can't touch it are the demons, unless they want their hands burned, that is.

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@KoL is it okay if Shizuka uses Diana's sword? I think she might need it.

@Ryonara

Go ahead, but the sword is hardly more than a normal blade w/o Diana's mantle.