Letter Bee

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Tbh what I would have a harder time believing is the US seizing so much of Mexico, when they explicitly chose not to go further south in OTL because of the prevailing racist attitudes of the time. They didn't want more non-whites in the US lmao.

That the US in this has taken control of so much indicates some dark shit is probably going down.

What a cursed fucking timeline we have wrought.

@Lady Lascivious

This is definitely chilling, although I cannot OOCly forbid it.

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I intended for the Empire to be in something of a limbo as of 1847 - Given how The Great Game tended to go, there'd be vested interests for both Russia and Britain to have cause for concern for a largely independent state in India that is quickly modernizing. For Britain, it might be a tough pill to swallow, but giving up some territory to the Empire in return for someone at least wiling to play ball with them might be a better bet than try to maintain a tenuous hold onto what they already have. For Russia, having someone who's that big a thorn in the UK's side would definitely be a plus to them, but I don't imagine Russia would be too happy with super huge a counterweight in South Asia, either. In either case, having a powerful Indian substate who owes them a favor or two would be very helpful in diplomacy not just in India, but throughout the Middle East in its entirety.

@Yam I Am

Which is true, indeed.

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Okay, what if continental Canada was taken but all the islands (PEI, Labrador, Nova Scotia, Atlantic Nunavut, etc.) remained British? after all I think the loss of Canada hurts a lot less than the loss of India......

@Andreyich

It normally would, but one must remember that Canada is inhabited by loyal white subjects of the Crown who already made it clear in 1812 they didn't want to be American and that the British probably saw the Canadians as closer to kin than Indians. Then again, I could be projecting present attitudes to the past.

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@Andreyich, I love your sheet, and I am inclined to accept it, but one should note that this time, the issue is not plausibility, but rather 'fairness' towards the future British player. Basically, a potential player has quit before because he thought Britain was 'nerfed' by Egypt being so 'strong' (quotation marks intended), and a stronger US with Canada might cause more potential players who want to play Britain to turn away.

@Lady Lascivious, Approved.

@Yam I Am, Accepted; hopefully, a potential British player won't be too turned off by losing the Anglo-Sikh War.

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@Wernher, Thanks!

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@Letter Bee
Hehe, I was wondering when that might come up

Fear not there's a small army of Filipinos in my discord contacts who would probably swim over and murder me if they caught wind of anything like that

That and I don't have the stomach for being anywhere near as logic defyingly evil as the otl Japanese Empire.

@Lady Lascivious

Good.

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@Letter Bee
Entirely possible, but one could just as easily make an argument that having a strong ally in the east strengthens Russia's position significantly against the western European powers.

Which way would they go? Hard to say. That's what the IC is for, after all ^-^

@Lady Lascivious

Yes, true, especially with the Egyptians serving as the British bulwark against Russia instead of the Ottomans...

Edit: Anyway, make the edits and I'll accept it. Personal request, though: Be good to the Catholics and be good to the Philippines.

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@Wernher, @Eldritch Puppy, would you two like to be my Co-GMs? You two seem like smart and level-headed people...

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Bad harvest is good with me if it is with you. It avoids the population crash issue of a plague. It provides context for the land reforms, as well as extra motivation for wanting to seize more land outside of Japan.

@Lady Lascivious

Bad harvests or maybe a series of them works. That said, once Russia figures out that the 'New Shogun' can't be manipulated easily, they'd probably turn against her or try to undermine her.

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EDIT: An alternative proposal. A bad harvest leads to severe food shortages and unrest, instead of a plague.

@Lady Lascivious

That is much better. I was about to propose it.

Sorry for the double post.