SleepingSilence

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@POOHEAD189

I'll admit, I'm just perplexed but intrigued by that gif and it's purpose. :I

...I have nothing more to add.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@catchamber
I did some of those things already.

Also, you didn't answer my question.

And have yet to provide counter evidence of your own.

Why did you type it like that?

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

You're the one defending the eternal necessity of governments, Then you have to admit that functional anarchy can exist.

@catchamber

Though I'm not, at least not this current conversation between you and me. It was never about that.

In your contrarian ways, you forgot (or again are pretending in such a way it wouldn't matter.) that I already played devil's advocate by posting something having to do with anarchy possibly working. My argument was it was equally if not more logical than typical arguments for socialism. (even though that's basically what it advocated for.) Which also wasn't what you were ever talking about...which you yourself told me that you had problems with what was in it (the article about anarchy working.) than never actually told me what was wrong with it.

Are we arguing about anarchy? Or about human nature wanting leaders, not being an obvious and important truth of the world? It never was about both.

I still don't know outside of -not- birds or fish. Because both have instances of seeking leadership, as many in the animal kingdoms have their alpha's and beta's. What actual human instances we have were in between having strong leadership and no strong leadership, people would willingly choose the latter category.

Music Appreciation Thread

@Exit One where you merely give thoughts on the track provided without number scores? (I suppose that could be fruitful in more ways than one, I still like using rating scores myself. :3)

Edit: Well shoot you beat me to the punch. The funny thing is about the big original 3 shounen anime, I always found Bleach OP's my favorite, in music terms. I never got into the others as much. Though that was when I was younger and still enjoyed Bleach. The 2nd bleach opening is still pretty fantastic though. But Asian Kung-Fu Generation just has a powerfully emotional vocalist. (Also better as a full song, just because there's more of his singing in it. :P) 7/10 Enjoyable song (even if not the full one.) though the actual opening itself isn't particularly interesting. (doesn't effect the rating.)

@The Spectre I enjoyed that track alot, choirs are always cheesetastic. Though looking at the translated lyrics, it looks like it's about nothing like that. xD

@Arya10108909 Well it's one of the better anime openings, on visual story telling. But I'm rating music here. ;3 I'd also prefer listening to the whole song vs the edited intro if it's possible to. (The full song is better, can't go wrong with a guitar solo, so I'd feel like it would be cheating posting a score equivalent to ranking the full song.) So I'll throw it a 7.5/10. Still a fantastic anime OP and song though. Rewrite from the original FMA, will still always be my favorite song though.

Okay, now some random, quite enjoyable indie folk music. From many bands I need to look deeper into their discography.

Music Appreciation Thread

This page really shouldn't be so dead. It's a shame.

4.5/10 *shrugs* Listenable I suppose? Very typical mainstream radio easy listening stuff. Didn't have a strong opinion either way. Though a Jaden Smith feature can do nothing but lessen the quality of a song, so that drops it by .5 (and because the word hella was uttered.) XD

Just within keeping the theme going, though I think I'd enjoy this guy more so if I could actually understand him...

What Are You Listening To?

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Frettzo Sort of neither of the things presented really...it was more the equivalent of those smoked out of your mind conversations you have about 'changing the world man' but instead one of you is sober just humoring the debate. Doesn't matter how seriously either person took it, but genius is about as diametrically opposed as it could get.

@Normie The only problem was this theory was all he had, and he somehow wanted evidence to debunk an impossible scenario. And his defenses of it, made it clear that his only point was based in fantasy and inaccuracies. Even in theory it goes against human nature and science, he also lambasted the idea of a theory of his theory, like he depended it to work in reality. There's a fine line between making fantasy scenarios and dogmatically defending those fantasy ideals. (Whether sarcastically or not.)

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@catchamber Okay, I found something more interesting to do. So keeping it brief and ending it. You aren't debunking anything by saying something is garbage and you yourself have provided no real sources of your own. You also can't read...



They put their source of information in the very upper title.

lmgtfy.com/?q=Cell+press+study+on+fish

Are you denying that the birds listed don't have pecking orders? Must I also google that for you too?

I digress, I'm bored with this. You haven't proven your point in human hierarchies which was the original point. I don't need to, the fact is it would likely bound to happen eventually...if one needed to be picked. I mean it's already done in real life...and usually it's not actually that difficult of a task.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@catchamber Is net neutrality effecting birds now too? (in the digital age) A single sentence is not enough I'm afraid...but you have more than enough time to try again.

sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081…

Also, about my conscious thought. Even fish choose leaders...

discoverwildlife.com/animals/birds/ar…

sciencemag.org/news/2010/04/when-pige…

And birds...again have leaders...even when the goalpost is being moved, I already mentioned the possibility of multiple leaders but the fact remains leaders are necessary in both things and you have yet to debunk this.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@SleepingSilence Traits of an adhocracy:

• highly organic structure
• little formalization of behavior
• job specialization not necessarily based on formal training
• a tendency to group the specialists in functional units for housekeeping purposes but to deploy them in small, market-based project teams to do their work
• a reliance on liaison devices to encourage mutual adjustment within and between these teams
• low or no standardization of procedures
• roles not clearly defined
• selective decentralization
• work organization rests on specialized teams
• power-shifts to specialized teams
• horizontal job specialization
• high cost of communication (dramatically reduced in the networked age)
• culture based on non-bureaucratic work

The bold parts definitely sound like features inherent to school of fish or flock of birds.

@Penny Lol, you don't understand chemistry or biology.

@catchamber

You killin me smalls. I just don't know how much of my sanity can take of this. I'll admit you got me to laugh, (in a "I give up" kind of way. But I almost appreciate this discussion like I would a bad song.)

How many ways can I go about debunking a joke...as if it was serious...

Well, we'll start with your own post (which I know you didn't do on purpose, hence why I call it obnoxious and plead to try harder. If you want to be funny, put some more effort in it is all I'm asking for here.) is just the wikipedia list of the word and you tacitly admit the ones in bold are the only parts that apply. When you need a large majority or all for it to be considered one. And you have 6 of the 13 highlighted...and the last two you couldn't of highlighted with a straight face. A dead man would be rolling in his grave.

roles not clearly defined

nature.com/news/precision-formation-f…

Birds roles and formations in flight are often precise. So doesn't even work there either.

High cost of communication (dramatically reduced in the networked age)

I'll give you my third born child, if you can give me a good enough explanation, on how in the flying fuck, does high cost of communication apply to fish and birds. I'll will literally wait an eternity, please don't spare me any details.