SleepingSilence

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Come to think of it didn't you say sexism dosen't exist at some point?

@Penny

Maybe you should, I don't know. Prove anything, you say or think. Just throwing that out there.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

A super important answer to the endless query. :)

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Dynamo Frokane I oddly see a lack on answer in your meme.

Yes, I'm sure you and your forum spread girl gossip like it goes out of style. But how much of it, effects me by having to witness it? :)

Also, when we go into "rules" or outside moral busybodies. It's simple psychology really, to spare you the details. People have already played their hands to me. I have zero rational reason to act how I did before, and seriously if you want to contend. Please show me posts from a year ago, remotely as aggressive as previous ones. I think I'd be waiting a millennia. It's not just from forum inactivity, for the lack of me dealing with twat-blasters, I assure you. (Don't worry, I'm speaking completely detached from this conversation. No naming calling here.)

And yes, for me it is that simple. The last time I was reasonable enough to humor you in explaining your case, I got toys thrown at my head. And clearly no lesson was learned, so I didn't even finish reading what you wrote. Feel free to do same.

The Savage And Subservient (SleepingSilence x KatherinWinter)

After all I've never looked for a criminal but I have some general ideas on how to do it even without books and movie knowledge.

@KatherinWinter

Believe me, you have those general ideas from fiction and movie knowledge. xP Not everyone can be an actual cop, or actual detective. This is fiction. Criminals here, don't have to even bide by the same rules as real life...

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

We are ALL talking about politics right now, pay attention kid.

I was more whining about the fact that you two seem to complain about this thread being a spam thread shitshow for idiots, but refuse not to engage in said shitshow for idiots making you both hypocrites.

@Dynamo Frokane

What forum politics? <.< Also, you really suck, like just suck at being on moral high ground while getting dirty. Making a criticism on me prescribing age to maturity, saying I can't. While literally doing the same thing, just with nothing to back it up with.

No, for me. You were just whining, happened multiple times actually. When you bitched at Odin, bitching at you. I was the only one on here engaging in an actual opposing discussion for three pages, that you sourced as evidence. <.<

And why do you think I've stopped trying to be civil like the previous year and half, or so. I'm very much engaging in the shit-show. And you can lob "now you're no better" comments all ya want. But ask me this, how many people do I have shit-talking me on a daily basis, knowing full well I won't even pretend to care, and verbally kick their ass right back? ;D (Answer: Less, much less.)

Absolutely nobody here thinks you are emotionally mature.

@Dynamo Frokane

Man even me? You can read minds? Also did I ever claim I was? If you knew me in the slightest, maybe you'd even know a reason. But you don't. But I'll throw a citation needed, up there. And wait for it to never be filled out.

Are you trying to tie maturity to chronological age? If so what does that say about those who are actually older than you?

@Dynamo Frokane

Got me slick. And that's a very good question. I never cried about emoticons killing my family, even when I was a child. I never "hated" someone so very much, yet stalk them to a disturbing degree. (I'll add this bit, just to let you guess which part applies to you and others.) So maybe I was just kind of hoping that, maybe, teennagers are to blame for all problems ever.

Or maybe, it was my very subtle way to say you guys act like less mature/rational than forums where I was with nothing but teenagers.

YEESSSS I was waiting for this! I knew your over-emotional contrarian ass,

@Dynamo Frokane

Let me be straight with you, for a moment. When I got out of a bed, checked the forums, saw two comments (by the same person. Like I didn't just go over that.) Saw your reaction to me stating the truth, and just seeing it was several paragraphs long and I verbally said aloud. "My god, I just don't care that much."

So even though all of yesterday, you could practically see the smug coming from my grin. Yet, was called mad least 2-3 times. Now I'm being called emotional. So, just giving you the sheer dejected apathy I'm using to respond to this as I eat my breakfast.

I think the only one emotional about this subject, is you. (Rubber and glue aside.) Being perfectly honest here.

Would eventually get you to start arguing race realism, and the delicious thing is, I know you're not even a racialist but you want to make it clear you disagree with me on everything so you are taking this stance, love it!

Give me your biological definition of race. Me and @catchamber are dying to hear you of all people flex your expertise on genetic grouping based on arbitrary folk races.

@Dynamo Frokane

I'm not, and you're correct I'm not. You talked to me only a half dozen times about this, for hours on end. So you'd think you'd of all people be able to distinguish the difference.

Race realism, is not just knowing that there's racial differences in culture and environment and yes, even DNA. It's the idea that IQ tests, and the rest of those racial differences are static and cannot be changed with nurture. And putting so much relevance on race, just like identity politics. Does not lead to healthy or productive results. Racists use race for their activism. (Progressive, Alt-right. BLM, KKK.) I and many others use ideas. So no, not being contrarian.

Frankly, I shouldn't have answered these and let you stew in it. Because really I just can't care less about this...But I'm the guy who spend hours on the phone with my roommate, holding mock debates in middle school. (I wasn't born like this...I chose this path. <.< Oh, also another difference I have between progressive politics, I blame myself for things that I do.)

Since you can't seem to refute my point about traps or even find the post where I even compared them to transgender or even mentioned transgender. I can see why you want to retreat to this hill.

@Dynamo Frokane

And what is a trap really? A guy who dresses up like a girl? By that logic your heroes Steven Crowder and Paul Joseph Watson became 'Gay Traps' when they put on wigs and dresses.

@Dynamo Frokane

You're asexual right? I'm skeptical about you dictating the rules of sexual attraction to me.

@Dynamo Frokane

You compared traps with cross dressers. Which everyone who knows it's a meme, isn't what it is. It's also bringing up the LGBTAAIP2(QRSTUV) in a discussion about Traps. (It's actually close to telling an agnostic that they can't talk about religion, or know which "religion of peace" throws gays off of buildings.)

In the same way you can be a radical SJW without ever once screaming at a protest. I have to draw the line somewhere.

@Dynamo Frokane

Ya, don't say? *Yes it's out of context. Couldn't care less. It's hilarious, and that moment of being serious is done now.*

The Savage And Subservient (SleepingSilence x KatherinWinter)

@KatherinWinter Well me mentioning killing boars is playful. But he's isn't an assassin, he isn't particularly experienced in what he's currently doing. He's decently well traveled, but clearly not enough to know about the things on going now. So I think you may overplay how well the average, or even above average man would do at actually finding kidnappers, in a world of magic. Where, you don't know their names, motive, location, looks, or even what time. Because they were not stolen right in front of him. So all things considered. Given who he's up against, he's done pretty well for himself.

He was actually sheltered much of his childhood. (though I haven't really gone into that too much.)

And actually, you make a perfectly fair point. That maybe she wouldn't look like a girl. Least from cursory idea. Though, I kind of imagined the person who gets called the bladed beauty, may be a little vain. (actually was figuring to make her alot vain.) So I don't know if she'd try to make herself ugly as sin. Maybe, in a place surrounded by criminals, she feels safe because she's in the in crowd. Maybe she's not hiding at all? Note, she's only rarely known outside her cliente. (He knows this solely because he got this tip from the dead friend, who he did favors for in return.) Not exactly on every town's bulletin board.

But if Elizabeth could presume and figure out motivations like that. She could probably come up some reason for why she needed to find her. Okay, she's a bad liar. But she's attractive, sex appeal can go a long way. And maybe she'll be lucky enough to have a few horribly drunk folks there. They tend to have very loose lips. We will see what you do, you're free to take the reins on how or if you find the bladed beauty.

I'm giving you the option to take the story in your own hands, if you want. (which is a OOC reason, I wanted this event to unfold. But the idea you'd have to split up to human-only territories was inevitable.)

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

>someone mentions racism

"Surely this will be a civil discussion"

Hider

@POOHEAD189

Come on now.

Surely it wouldn't take that long, you've seen this place long enough to know that.

The Savage And Subservient (SleepingSilence x KatherinWinter)

@KatherinWinter I don't think I've actually given a lot of my character's backstory thus far. (Maybe I'm going brain dead tonight.) How experienced really is he? And in what? I don't see highly intellectual and thoughtful commander on his CS. He's a guy who hunt and kills wild boars. Are you just kind of hoping he's experienced in children rescuing? Convenient as it would be, not on his lifetime experience resume. xP

But the thing he's requesting makes perfect sense to him. And honestly, given his options, how many better ways does he have to do this? The point is that he doesn't know how it will work, he's a guy who doesn't have all the answers. He also clearly has made plenty of mistakes already. A warrior skilled in fighting, endurance, things needed to track down dangerous people. Yes. But, he isn't a tactician. He isn't a genius. I'd figure this had been pretty clear in how I've wrote him.

And in your own CS, your character is smart, she's hardworking. I don't see why she couldn't/wouldn't make best with the little she had and find a woman in a likely male dominated building. Through what amounts to using your time wisely and effectively...

Bastian isn't actually asking for something that unrealistic, he rationalized that the people in this building wouldn't be suspicious of you. Because its a place likely full of criminals and the beastkind revolution outside is clearly a bigger concern...He wants her somewhere he thinks will be safer for her. He's doing this out of affection. And the fact he has no other choice. He can't get to her there, without stirring up trouble. He wants to do this the legal way. (You saw how friendly he was with strangers.) Her leaving that building, outside anywhere near the beastkind crowd will get her face possibly stomped in. I really don't understand the problem with his character action, from either a practical standpoint or an emotional one.

Also, one thing on not being sure if Bastian can change for the better. Well I've already kind of hinted that he's been doubtful of himself when he thinks about not being able to protect her well. So she already is, whether knowingly or not. And people sometime change, by force after they hit rock bottom first to do it. Maybe if Elizabeth tries to understand Bastian, opens up to him. We'll get somewhere with that. But I don't think she's actually told him her name yet. But that again, shows how the characters are...

In real life would she not have told her owner her name since he directly asked? I dunno. Doesn't seem rational to me, especially if scared of him at the time. But I'm putting real life out of a roleplaying story and letting the narrative flow and go where it may.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

A majority of the time I never bother posing questions in reverse, so perhaps now is the best time to start doing so. Let us start this from the top then, shall we? Why is your definition of racism so broad?

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

Not him, but to be frank and spare you as much sarcasm as possible.

His definition of racism is broad because, he thinks race is a social construct and isn't biological. When you don't believe in a biology with gender as @Penny and @Andreyich do. You believe that Autigender (a gender that specifically relates to autistic people, that only they can have.) and the 76 growing list of genders must exist. So you can only image, why it wouldn't be concise and straightforward.

What Are You Listening To?

Though I'm listening to the full album.
*Album kinda sucks. Least I have a few others to go. Fingers crossed^-^'*