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Our last war was 250 years ago with Hambria, so I'm afraid I can't help you there. Unless you want to have had a war since then, which would be perfectly logical given the border tension (and explain that peninsula you own)
I don't think Yllenthyr would've risked war with a nation of near or comparable power so it's more likely the penisula is an earlier acquisition before the borders of Kataylabinsk expanded this far.
Alternatively the elves could've taken the peninsula during the chaos with the empire's fall and the formation of PRK.
Maybe Yllendthyr got those lands in return for helping your regime triumph over the empire.
I mean there could've been some obvious rivalry between the two empires.

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Eisenkreis has fought with Kzechverin for centuries, and it's highly likely the original cause for their Unification War was Kzechverin adventurers. The recent joining of Kzechverin and Eisenkreis is actually not related to the wars, but actually the union of house Desrosier and Kzechverin between Marianna Desrosier and Csilla Kzechverin. There have been tanks used in outside conflicts, however, namely skirmishes with royal houses in the Kzechverin territories, so it would definitely be a visible thing to the world of Eisenkreis' technological standing.
I see. Well, that can work, too. The main point is that Yllendthyr starts working on their tanks after they see them in combat. Also when they realize practically everyone has them.
On the other hand, union between Marianna and Csilla, huh?
Both names are denoting female gender so...I didn't expect that to happen.
On a different note, what kind of wars took place around this century.
I suppose Eisenkreis (@Alfhedil) fought one just a few dozen years ago at worst. His new borders are recent conquest.
Most likely they used tanks in that.

Thanks to Yllendthyr and Avalia (@Skepic) aircrafts were also probably used in some local wars.

But otherwise I'm at loss.
So what kind of important wars occoured which may have involved some modern weaponry?
I just wish to give a nice background for my weapon developments.
For example tanks would be inspired mostly by Eisenkreis, although with the taste of elven engineering.
Finished my Arqwyen II type tanks.
Arqwyen means knight and that's indeed a fitting name for them.
Here's a little summary for you all, and an explanation of how I've calculated my exterior relations.

Add mixed economy to my nation, too.
Then again I think this kind of classification is too arbitrary to be relied on.
I think surmizing relations in actual sentences is better.

Anyways, I'd rather discuss relations with other nations in OOC or PMs.

@Alfhedil Eisenkreis' fascist state which would discriminate against both elves and humans. Relations are bound to be poor.
Albeit I suppose I could have a minor Lindai population within the empire and some of these could stay in Eisenkreis as ambassadors.
Also it's possible that the elves of Yllendthyr fought Eisenkreis in the past and may have even taken some territories from them. This could be a source of grievance between the two races. Can also explain how I have some Lindai population in my empire.

@HaelKalMea is a nation which actively trades with others and may even supply Yllendthyr with important materials. Their free market style economy is also beneficial for positive relations. The current political tension between Tin and Yllendthyr may also mean that the Empire is subtly giving them various support just to weaken the opponent.

@ClocktowerEchos Yamatai and Yllendthyr have territorial disputes but given Clock's status in this RP I think we can agree on a ceasefire which is already lasting for decades and neither side feels uncomfortable with it.

@RaijinslayerUmbraisis has past feud with Yllendthyr along with territorial claims, both were already discussed in PMs. Our relation are akin to a cold war with neither side is willing to initiate another war on the other. I mentioned you for the sake of completion.

@hivekiller Unless something comes up the relation between Dong Wei and Yllendthyr seems to be neutral. I am open to suggestions, though.

@SkepicYllendthyr already agreed to trade strategic materials with Avalia and I'm rather willing to form an alliance with them. I have yet to get a response on that, though.

@MihndarPRK's ideology clashes with Yllendthyr and there are some tensions at the borders. On the other hand if I form an alliance with Avalia and so does PRK then our relation will be in a surprisingly positive note.
You could say I am the UK to the USA (Avalia) and USSR (PRK) within the Allies.

@thegreenleafe Hambrian relations are currently ambivalent and depend on how they choose their politics in the future. We can establish some relation or past feud if you want, though.

@MurtoxTiqsimuyu has good relations with the Avalians which may translate to the relations with Yllendthyr. Of course we can discuss the details either here or in PMs.

@CycloneOur relation with Tin seems to be set in stone by the plot. Territory disputes, violation of embargo, being 2 inches taller at average, etc...

@Voltus_VentusSurprisingly enough we never talked about the relations between Ventium and Yllendthyr. So pretty much anything is possible.

@Willy Vereb

Dead elves do seem to solve a lot of problems, though
Oh, you have no idea.


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Only slight ones, since we'll be friendly with Avalia by then and higher tariffs = higher prices for them.

And I venture to say air travel is already more expensive than sea.
Well, yeah. That's given.
Albeit huge airships make the difference less glaring.
As for price, we have a mutual trade agreement with Avalia so at least when it concerns the exchange of strategic materials we'll be even.
On the other hand Yllendthyr may use this situation to trade the super gas (always forget its name) to other countries for increased profits.
Basically Yllendthyr would be the distributor (probably along with Kataylabinsk) which means Tin's embargo will be filling elven pockets.


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You can go through Kataylabinsk, you know, right?

That's okay. We're not Eisenkreis.
I wasn't sure what kind of relations your nation has with Yllendthyr so I didn't risk it.
But yeah, I could.
Might be still better to avoid you just to save my nations from the heavy tariffs you're bound to be dropping on me.

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You'd have to pass through Commieland or the windswept northern craggy mountains that is the north pole.

The choice is yours. :)
I have faith in my engines!
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Yeah but then Hael kinda switched his vote and Willy did say he'd prefer the slow tension (which I presume to have meant not the island thing)...I don't even know which idea has more support now.

I'll stop being petty about it and trying to sway people to my side; if Willy and Hael clarify their positions then I'll just accept whatever that leaves us at.
I chose the trade dispute but I also proposed an alternative which allows both.
The bombing will be premature and it only raises the tension without resulting in a war.
Then the trade dispute will worsen the relations but it'll take a while.
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You promised.
Give him a rest, I was kinda the cause of that.
Should've known better but I wanted to clear up the issue.

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A good choice to make. Just to be clear, I don't have anything against you as a person, I merely found your actions in ill-taste. That being said, I'm walking away from the prior issue, and hoping that we will both simply see it as a misunderstanding and strive to avoid such things in the future.
Yeah, if possible I wish to avoid confrontations.
Anyways, I think you can consider my radar-guided missile idea. That sounds hi-tech yet appropriate for the time and can solve the gaps in your AA defenses.

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Does this switch it to three in our favor and two for the islands?

I was joking with my last post, but if you feel this way then we could actually go with the trade dispute
I thought I was the second person who voted for trade dispute.
Yeah, that sounds like a more conservative start.
Alternatively you can have the bombing incident escalating the tension but not quite resulting in anything close to a war.
Then the trade dispute which further worsens the relations.
Especially since I deliberately plan to ignore the embargo and approach Avaria via an air route from the north.

I'm fine with either but if possible I prefer slow escalation.
I want to write some posts about Yllendthyr actually being in peace.
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