[OOC] Arena Chat Thread

[Skallagrim]

That is a crap analogy, and if I make a better pie, guess what people will buy a better product. It is the law of business.

[DJAtomika]

@MelonHead I like how you're constantly adding to it even though you're probably woozy and slightly off kilter. XD

Eventually that post is going to lose the original analogy lol

[Skallagrim]

Sure Dj start the thread I'll post my character as soon as I am finished.

[MelonHead]

That is a crap analogy, and if I make a better pie, guess what people will buy a better product. It is the law of business.

@Skallagrim

Uh.. you just proved my analogy made some sense, to the 'buying customer' a weaker character that they have a better chance of defeating is the 'better product.'

At the moment all the people getting fights have more vulnerable characters, which in term makes them more appetizing to fight. Essentially you have to handicap yourself somewhat if you expect someone who knows they are lesser skilled than you to face you in competition, because you are essentially competing with a wide range of other potential people they could fight instead.

I mean, some people will take the challenge head on, but not many, it's why when you're learning something you don't tend to go fight the best person around, it might be an amazing learning experience, but it might also be horribly demoralizing.

[DJAtomika]

He's got a point there, Skall.

[ImportantNobody]

I don't mind fighting a loosing battle, but of course if I know I'm going to lose I might as well make it unranked.

[LeeRoy]

Why do I have to change? Why don't people get out of their comfort zones and develop their characters or their skills?

@Skallagrim

To be entirely fair, you being averse to changing is you being averse to leaving your comfort zone. Though I'm not the kind of person who avoids you in fights, so this isn't really my discussion. Post will be up in half an hour by the way.

[GreivousKhan]

Alright. A single themed power.

@Skallagrim

Oh, you should think outside the box for it to, like my psionic I made that had the near exact same fighting style. Like a Soul Blade, only creating mind blades with her feet instead of hands. Kool stuff. I think you could pull it off.

[DJAtomika]

@GreivousKhan Oh you should totally spectate our upcoming fight then. My fighter's already up, and he's as unorthodox as I'm ever gonna get, probably. XD

[GreivousKhan]

@GreivousKhan Oh you should totally spectate our upcoming fight then. My fighter's already up, and he's as unorthodox as I'm ever gonna get, probably. XD

@DJAtomika

@DJAtomikaI was probably going to, lately I've been reading past fights and current on my phone while on the bus to work or when bored. My favorite one so far is Fury vs Kanitah, Round 2 thing. Never really cared for either character, and the reason for their rematch was more lackluster then I'd have liked, but the emotion and character development that evolved out from it later on really made it quite a compelling piece.

Wanted Fury to win at first, which was odd since I like the under dog usually, but later it become obvious Kanitah had the more relatable goal of finding his daughter. (which story writers wise, means he has to lose tragically. XD)

Skallagrim VS Crazy Scion was another good one, but the season has bogged down lately, was even thinking of chiming in like Skalla mentioned. I was reading it one night and had a moment of inspiration for some advice for Scion. Of course come morning I forgot all of it....

[LeeRoy]

@GreivousKhan
Ah, Khan. As backhanded as always~

[MelonHead]

Yeah, I do wish the Fury Vs Kanitah fight had a better motive than it does. I've been trying to stretch out the motivations as far as possible, because I don't like my characters to just be fighting for no reason unless they're true Chaotic Evil, but it wasn't happening. At least I always have the Evil Spirit card to fall back on.

I'm not really taking responsibility for that though, LeeRoy did give me literally nothing to work with other than forcing my character to be the bad guy who randomly wants to kill him, considering Kanitah's location, actions, etc.

[Rilla]

I find it would be demoralizing to have to create weak characters to participate in something like the ranks, when others can use just about any character they want, just because one has a higher skill level.

In essence, it kind of ruins the ranks, because then you're not really the best when you actively tell a skilled fighter he has to be weaker to participate, or risk not getting any fights and thus not a fair chance of actually gaining rank.

that's what I wanted to try and avoid by having everyone fight everyone, instead of a cycle of fighting people you either know you can beat, or have a good chance of beating.

it seems like its been as much implied that many won't fight anyone, at least for rank, if its a good chance they'll lose.

while Skally has some strong characters, who doesn't? many of his, from experience, tend to be totally scalable to the fight.

[GreivousKhan]

Yeah, I do wish the Fury Vs Kanitah fight had a better motive than it does. I've been trying to stretch out the motivations as far as possible, because I don't like my characters to just be fighting for no reason unless they're true Chaotic Evil, but it wasn't happening. At least I always have the Evil Spirit card to fall back on.

@MelonHead

Motivation is not a big deal really, I have seen worse reasons in other fights. This is after all the arena. The Dreamers taking offense at a backhanded comment by Scion to his watch comes to mind. However, in that case Skalla managed to create a rather odd reason for aggression into some kind of learning experience for Scion on a emotional level through skillful writing. I don't if many people could have pulled it off, but Skalla did brilliantly. Somehow... It's obvious Skalla loves the hell out of that character. (I think you tired to do something like that later on with Fury wanting the word Engine, it seemed to come out of the blue a bit from a readers point of view, since until then it was not apperent Fury knew about the word engine.)

Of course that "you have 8,035 days left in your life." part was baller as hell. Probably the one best line of dialogue I've read in the Arena for some time.

[GreivousKhan]

I find it would be demoralizing to have to create weak characters to participate in something like the ranks, when others can use just about any character they want, just because one has a higher skill level.

In essence, it kind of ruins the ranks, because then you're not really the best when you actively tell a skilled fighter he has to be weaker to participate, or risk not getting any fights and thus not a fair chance of actually gaining rank.

that's what I wanted to try and avoid by having everyone fight everyone, instead of a cycle of fighting people you either know you can beat, or have a good chance of beating.

it seems like its been as much implied that many won't fight anyone, at least for rank, if its a good chance they'll lose.

while Skally has some strong characters, who doesn't? many of his, from experience, tend to be totally scalable to the fight.

@Rilla

I wouldn't mind facing any of Skalla's characters. There is a story line I want to do involving the Skallagrim the Cughtagh and Tordor I want to do involving the Ancients. Though I might be able to do that in the four way.

[LeeRoy]

@MelonHead To be entirely fair, the initial meeting between Kanitah and Fury was entirely chance. I was putting Kanitah with Khold but then you and Khan showed up on the spider planet at the exact same time.

Which lead to Fury and Kanitah butting heads because of "Ideological Differences"

[MelonHead]

@MelonHead To be entirely fair, the initial meeting between Kanitah and Fury was entirely chance. I was putting Kanitah with Khold but then you and Khan showed up on the spider planet at the exact same time.

Which lead to Fury and Kanitah butting heads because of "Ideological Differences"

@LeeRoy

I was talking about our second round, the first round had a better motive, even if it was just an accident.

[LeeRoy]

@MelonHead
True enough, the second round's motive is sort of flat.

[MelonHead]

It would have made a lot more sense for Kanitah to have been seeking Fury, considering Fury left their original fight without finishing it off. It doesn't make sense to have him pursuing Kanitah when he could have continued fighting him in the earlier battle.

[GreivousKhan]

It would have made a lot more sense for Kanitah to have been seeking Fury, considering Fury left their original fight without finishing it off. It doesn't make sense to have him pursuing Kanitah when he could have continued fighting him in the earlier battle.

@MelonHead

With Kanitah maybe having reason to believe Fury knows something about his daughter. Possibly through bad intel. Or it might even be true!