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Something I may point out is the welcome PM that every new member receives:

The question I have for you guys is do you also feel that this helps with a new user experience and perhaps should we update it with some details on the site?@Vashonn was kind enough to mention that he never really bothered with an intro post due to a lack of activity, so even before we get a chance to interact with the newbies is there something we can do to encourage them to engage in the community as opposed to hiding behind PMs and the usual lurking tendencies.


I know we're not really looking for stuff for Mahz to do, but profile pages could be tweaked a bit. It would help if there were several sections to fill out with various interests. I realize new users can do that with the bio section, but having various fields kind of gives new users hints as to what they should be writing. I'm not going to lie, quite a few people I recruited for my Danganronpa RP I acquired just by striking up a conversation about Danganronpa with people that had avatars from the game. I think people would be more likely to have conversations with new users if they knew what their interests were.


As a solution to both problems (giving Mahz less workload and addressing any edits to be made to the welcome PM), we could give a sort of list of info to players on how they can hunt for/announce to others what kind of playstyles/genres they would most enjoy. I mean, throwing a link to the introduction board and saying "this is where you say hi!" is simple - and to some, probably effective enough - yet I would imagine if someone doesn't have much history in online RPing communities, or RPing in general, they wouldn't really have much in terms of what they would say. Ya know:

very few of them know how to write an introduction post. "Hello, In case you can't read above my avatar, this is my username. I like rollplaying, and I want to write with you soon."
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this kinda stuff. Giving them not necessarily a criteria to follow, but more-or-less a sort of guideline, would allow them the means of knowing what to write, and allow the more seasoned members to look at the introduction thread and say "hey, I like this thing too! In fact, I have an RP starting up with just this kind of thing in mind!" *Cue cordial invitation to said RP, allowing the newbie easy access into the world of RPG* Of course, this wouldn't be the 100% flawless solution, but it would at least curb any further need for Mahz to spend time on factors that would be neat, but not necessary, and give even more opportunity for new and old players to try and interact with one another while the newbies are still getting their bearings. I can say that another factor for me not wanting to post anything in the introduction when I first joined was also attributed to this factor, since I really wasn't sure what I was supposed to say, since a simple "hello, I'm Vashonn, I like to think I'm nice and stuff and enjoy writing" didn't really seem like a satisfactory submission to me. Again, just my two cents on that thought.



I'm slowly starting to think that the "Play Your Avatar" game (which requires no setup time) could be a very good idea to let people jump straight into roleplaying as soon as they join.


I do wonder though, where would such a game be placed within the forums? Granted, this isn't a huge issue, and I imagine having it pinned in the "free" subforum would suffice, though it would probably be best to put it somewhere where people can readily find it - even as a link at the bottom of the welcome PM, I suppose.

Another minor issue/question, is how would the 'game' be formatted - in a similar fashion to an RP, with an IC, OOC, and Char tab? Or, more along the lines of a simple topic, like this one? Just throwing out thoughts to help churn the thinking-pot, though the answers may seem a bit more obvious than I have reckoned.



Hello. I'm a new user as of a few days ago, and speaking from a newcomers perspective, the greetings haven't been that warm to be honest. Besides a couple hollow feeling greetings in the introduction thread, I've yet to hear back from many users. I've sent so couple PMs, and have stated interest in several games only 2 of which seem to have gained any traction.

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I like the mentor idea.


I'm sorry to hear that - I was in a similar boat, for about the first week I lurked on here. I guess I can just say that depending on what subforum you're more interested in, things will gradually start picking up the pace, though it more often just depends on the level of dedication required and, in my experience, the time of year, even, as things can get fairly hectic during school/end of school times. I think that there are a good number of 'active' members (relative to others) who are in schooling, and may have more irl things to deal with, but I would imagine that when school is out, things will noticeably move faster ('faster' also being relative).

For the mentor idea, and this isn't just limited as a response to you: I think it should definitely be an option for new players to receive some help, if they would request it, from their peers. It probably wouldn't be necessary for them to have it has some requirement, but if they were to message any of the mods for aid, there should mos def be some sort of team/willing-to-help group of veteran RPers to jump on in and help a new player out, especially if they need assistance getting into the lingo, or anything else they seem to need help on. I wouldn't expect the "mentors" to hold the new user's hand and baby-talk their way through a huge list of "this is how you write an RP", because that would frankly be ridiculous, but simply having one or two of these people around to answer questions in a friendly, welcoming, warm manner would probably keep a good number of new users interested in the Guild. This could also go back to the "Play Your Avatar", where "mentor" members would be actively involved in the game, providing assistance when asked to, and acting as a sort of 'big bro' or 'big sis', without making the situation awkward, forced, or childlike/demeaning to people who are showing up just because they wanna have a good time roleplaying.

I think this all equates to... eight cents! It's a shame this ain't the good old days, or you guys would be gettin' a bag of candy or something by now.
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I do wonder though, where would such a game be placed within the forums? Granted, this isn't a huge issue, and I imagine having it pinned in the "free" subforum would suffice, though it would probably be best to put it somewhere where people can readily find it - even as a link at the bottom of the welcome PM, I suppose.

Another minor issue/question, is how would the 'game' be formatted - in a similar fashion to an RP, with an IC, OOC, and Char tab? Or, more along the lines of a simple topic, like this one? Just throwing out thoughts to help churn the thinking-pot, though the answers may seem a bit more obvious than I have reckoned.


I would pin it in spam. But I understand that due to spam's very nature that might not be the best place for it. So the RP subforum might be a good spot for it. if you felt that you needed tabs for it (I don't) you could set it up in free or casual.

I would just treat it as a chat room game. One of the reasons I wouldn't put it in a real RP forum is because I don't think there's going to be a lot of story telling, nor do I feel it's going to be especially serious. It would more be about interactions between the "characters." I can tell you right now I'd probably drop by any time I saw a good opportunity to say something amusing if it didn't affect my dedicated RP responsibilities. It would be a lot of stream of thought writing. stuff like "Hmmm, you don't seem to fear me, good knight? Well maybe you'd be more scared of me if you new I was the most twisted, vile princess in all the land!" Not always that short, but that's what I see happening.

Hell, I say we make a "you are your avatar" game in spam or as an RP forum hang out right now just to test it out. In fact, if someone hasn't made one by the time I get back today, I'll do it myself. I just can't think of a decent first post right now.

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Also, I don't like the mentour idea. Well, I do, but I don't think real mentours need a dignitary title. If someone wants to help new forum members out, they can add something to their signature space like "Pm me if you need anything!" or some junk. Plus, it's less work Mahz has to do.

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Might I suggest a cheat sheet that you can send to new players. A small glossary of lingo and acronyms.
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I will say, when I post in Introduce Yourself and tell people to ask me if they have questions...I genuinely mean it. It's very rare I get people taking me up on it, but I always respond to those that do.

I do like the idea of providing a guide for Intro posts. I like the idea of an intro "writing game."

And mentors aren't a bad idea. All in all not good feedback, thank you.
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The mentor system works quite well on Iwaku from what I’ve seen, but everyone I know have opted out of it – but that comes with being veterans coming to a new site opposed to being new to the artform. I think its a good idea, but it takes a bit of commitment.

I would recommend pinning or just contributing to major discussion thread (such as my music thread or the general politics thread) to promote actual discussion as well as rudimentary forum games. Perhaps some strategies to get newcomers involved in discussions could be beneficial – we have a few of these in RP discussion (where did you start role-playing, etc).
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I do like the idea of providing a guide for Intro posts. I like the idea of an intro "writing game."


This already exists. roleplayerguild.com/topics/152373-wel…
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I thought you meant the game. D: I got excited.
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I thought you meant the game. D: I got excited.


Riiiiiight, I was going to get the ball rolling on this.

Here we go

I'm not sure how well it will do, or if it's too simple in it's current format. But at least now we can see if people are going to take to the idea or not.

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Well, we've got veterans using it...
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I noticed that as well. Perhaps it should be pinned to the "Introduce Yourself" thread and or given a link or suggestion to visit for new users who have been active on the Guild for less than seventy-two hours or the like? It has started to gain momentum, but we absolutely need to move it toward newer players.
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I'm actually surprised at how fast it's taking off. And I get to write with everyone I've never been able to get into a serious RP with! Also, is it me or is activity in other role play discussion topics also going up?

But yea, making it directly in the introduce yourself thread feels kinda wrong to me. But I agree we need to make it more accessible to new users. I'm all for a mention in the new user PMs. Our greeting crew could also mention it to people who make a welcome thread.
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Or we could make a collective effort to throw it into our sigs for welcoming posts.
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Exposing it in any way would be a big help, but nothing's as good a sales pitch as word of mouth. A personal invitation is always going to be more classy than a poster ad. *sigh* I didn't want to have to personally promote the idea, but if the situation calls for it...
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I was rather intimidated by the users around me who had 1000+ posts under their belt, as well as 500+ days, which did kind of make me feel exceptionally "newbie" with my 0 days and 3 posts.
Posts counts need to be eliminated. They are no better than dick measuring contests. No matter who wins you are still the loser, because you put so much importance on nothing.
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<Snipped quote>Posts counts need to be eliminated. They are no better than dick measuring contests. No matter who wins you are still the loser, because you put so much importance on nothing.


Post counts are just statistics, not contests.
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<Snipped quote by Burning Kitty>

Post counts are just statistics, not contests.


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