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@Surtr Sheet for Brown's mom.





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@Oddsbod I went over her moveset, aaaaaaaaaand I have some comments on her kit.

■ Black Hole needs to be reworked or removed into something different. The ability to slow down everything around herself with no chance of dodging is pretty much a super... that she has as a regular attack. Perhaps rework it into a projectile?

■ Paradox also raises a few alarms for me. She has a better teleport move than Jaden, as an instant teleport that damages people when she finishes. This doesn't seem all that fair to me, so I suggest that she also has to concentrate like Jaden does. Or, she gets momentarily stunned after teleporting.

■ Singularity does leave her open, right? I'm okay with it being a instant/hard to dodge, move long as she is left open during it as it seems incredibly easy to counter.

■ My other problem is that her moveset seems a bit... schizophrenic to me. Like, it doesn't really fit a archtype to me, and she can do pretty much everything with movement abilities, several projectiles, defensive moves, and a few melee moves. Is she supposed to be an all-rounder or?
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@Oddsbod I went over her moveset, aaaaaaaaaand I have some comments on her kit.

■ Black Hole needs to be reworked or removed into something different. The ability to slow down everything around herself with no chance of dodging is pretty much a super... that she has as a regular attack. Perhaps rework it into a projectile?

■ Paradox also raises a few alarms for me. She has a better teleport move than Jaden, as an instant teleport that damages people when she finishes. This doesn't seem all that fair to me, so I suggest that she also has to concentrate like Jaden does. Or, she gets momentarily stunned after teleporting.

■ Singularity does leave her open, right? I'm okay with it being a instant/hard to dodge, move long as she is left open during it as it seems incredibly easy to counter.

■ My other problem is that her moveset seems a bit... schizophrenic to me. Like, it doesn't really fit a archtype to me, and she can do pretty much everything with movement abilities, several projectiles, defensive moves, and a few melee moves. Is she supposed to be an all-rounder or?


■ I was hoping that the one-shot limit on it would make it less like a regular attack, but yeah. Would it be more permissible if I dropped the time to like, four seconds? Savo also suggested that it slows down Verga as well. Other option is making it a once per day shot instead of once per hour.

■ I was again sorta hoping the shot limit would make that less troublesome, since she can only use it three times, where Jaden doesn't have that kind of limit. I could drop the shot limit down to two, and drop the range down.

■ Singularity pulls them in quick, but she can't move while it's active and she can't use her OP ki attacks. That said, she can always cancel the move if she sees something coming and jump out of the way, or use the Gravitaty Lens. Hm. I don't want it to be super duper easy to counter, just like a solid ranged grapple effect. Maybe if it wasn't as hard to dodge?

■ I'd started off trying to slot her into some specific role or archetype, but I was having trouble with it, and the general consensus in the chat was just go for a character and see how she landed once personality and backstory were finished. I ended up with an emotionally stunted person who, after going through an emotional, messy, and unhappy time in her life, decided to escape all that and devote the rest of her life to tracking down power wherever she could find it. And I thought a moveset that was less a cohesive set of interlocking skills, like Justin's or Jaden's, and more a collection of specific high-powered ki-moves was what would fit best for the character. I'd hoped that them all being vaguely astrophysics and light/energy/gravity themed might be enough to tie them together a bit more, but if you guys still have issues I could tweak them up a bit more. sorry have to leave literally right now but I'll be back soon can asnwer other question in discor
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■ Singularity pulls them in quick, but she can't move while it's active and she can't use her OP ki attacks. That said, she can always cancel the move if she sees something coming and jump out of the way, or use the Gravity Lens. Hm. I don't want it to be super duper easy to counter, just like a solid ranged grapple effect. Maybe if it wasn't as hard to dodge?


When you say you don't want it easy to be countered, you also have to consider that it's a move that basically teleports the opposing person to her. My understanding was that it's a high-risk, high-reward, kind of move. Which was fine with me, but you're basically saying that she can effectively negate the move's weaknesses...

I was hoping that the one-shot limit on it would make it less like a regular attack, but yeah. Would it be more permissible if I dropped the time to like, four seconds? Savo also suggested that it slows down Verga as well. Other option is making it a once per day shot instead of once per hour.


Even if it has a limit, I still think the ability to slow everything down around her is ridiculous. In a fighting game context, that'd be a super. I'd allow more shots if it was a projectile move that could be dodged.

■ I was again sorta hoping the shot limit would make that less troublesome, since she can only use it three times, where Jaden doesn't have that kind of limit. I could drop the shot limit down to two, and drop the range down.


But Jaden also can't use it instantly, and it doesn't come with an explosion effect. My problem isn't really the range, or how many times she can use it, but how fast she can, and the explosion. Savo suggested that it comes with a "charge" that allows her to do a quicker, short-ranged, teleport, without the explosion that leaves her disoriented.

■ I'd started off trying to slot her into some specific role or archetype, but I was having trouble with it, and the general consensus in the chat was just go for a character and see how she landed once personality and backstory were finished. I ended up with an emotionally stunted person who, after going through an emotional, messy, and unhappy time in her life, decided to escape all that and devote the rest of her life to tracking down power wherever she could find it. And I thought a moveset that was less a cohesive set of interlocking skills, like Justin's or Jaden's, and more a collection of specific high-powered ki-moves was what would fit best for the character. I'd hoped that them all being vaguely astrophysics and light/energy/gravity themed might be enough to tie them together a bit more, but if you guys still have issues I could tweak them up a bit more. sorry have to leave literally right now but I'll be back soon can answer other question in discor


My problem is that she can do a bit too much, a bit too well. Again, let's take a look at some of the other characters. Jonas fights using trickery, Inanna is a portal-based zoner, Brenda is focused on brute force rushdown. I can get a good idea of their archetype by reading their movelists, I can't really with Verga. Personally, going off of her backstory/characterization, I get the idea that she's all about a relentless offense, but a weak defense. But, that's just me.

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@Hellis Okay, let me review your characters!

Ben
■ I think Ben is pretty good overall, but I only have a small problem with the whole Vampire angle he's got going on feels... tacked. Like the whole "father was a monster" was poorly explored, and only briefly touched upon before moving to the next thing. I honestly forgot that he was a vampire until your weaknesses mentioned it. lol

■ Could you fix the coding errors in the sheet? It just looks a little jarring.

■ I think you need to expand a bit more on his fighting style section. It only explains how he functions as a fighter, not how his moves look, how he fights, etc.

■ Otherwise, I think his moveset is good.


Takio
■ Again, can you fix the coding errors in his sheet?

■ Again (x2) you need to expand a bit more on the fighting style section... look at what some of other characters have written for their fighting style.

■ Nationality is for telling the reader which nation they came from, not their ethnicity. That's for the appearance section.

Unless Sweden-Japan is a fictional nation you're pushing.

■ You left something for Ben in his OTHER section. lol

■ I think he's good if you correct a few problems.
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@Surtr Updated the sheet, Black Hole is now a projectile attack, Paradox is just a dash attack, dropped Paradox to two shots, and altered Singularity so it's easier to dodge, and can't pull a target more than twenty feet in towards from Verga.

For fighting style, I'd been imagining her as basically an all-rounder+. She does do too much too well, specifically, but everything she does basically has no indoor voice, and by virtue of going all in for big OP powers, her entire special roster can only be used so many times, forcing her to act conservatively with everything she does if she doesn't want to blow her load and be left a sitting duck. So, for example, characters who are really evasive, or can really prolong a fight would be especially difficult to match, even with all her abilities.

I could sorta see her as falling into the archetype of an all-rounder shotoclone turned up to 11, but has to act conservatively and carefully with each of her attacks, and gets put into awkward situations when she's teaming up, and can't safely use a big chunk of her arsenal around allies. Which should be fun, since getting to live with and have meaningful relationships with people again is where I'm hoping to point her character development.
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@Oddsbod The changes are fine by me, she's accepted.
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@Surtr

I delved a bit deeper into Bens story and rewrote it so that its more coherent. As well as having fleshed out the Fighting Style descriptions. I can't see that my cheets have coding issues though?
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@Hellis Both of them are accepted.
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@SurtrI am going to make a new character, and if he feels all right, then I will replace him with Gideon. I want to make a character that is toned down but still formidable, and will have a storyline where he actually is competitive with the tournaments. I already know what I am going to do. I will work on him when I get home. :)

Nevermind. I skimmed over the character list and Gideon is more unique than what my new idea would have been. The fighting style I would have used for my new guy is already taken and I like being somewhat original with my characters. So nevermind. I am keeping him. I will just save the character concept for another fighting RP.
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@Holy Soldier out of curiosity, what fighting style were you aiming for and which character already had that? As most of the characters function in certain fighting archetypes, but play out differently.
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@SavoIt would have been nothing spectacular. Just straight-up boxing.
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Also on Friday I'm posting the timeskip no matter what
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After taking too much damn time, we finally moved on to the first official chapter of the storyline. We'll be moving away from the tournaments for a bit, and to other story arcs. So you can either have your characters arrive in the (currently unnamed) town in Germany and witness the dargon, or be a contestant in the Japanese tournament.

Also, let's stop with collabs for a bit, yeah? Because every time we do a collab, we have a huge stall.
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@SurtrSo, you said you are getting away from a tournament just to start up another tournament. How about if you want to be in Japan but not in the tournament because it doesn't coincide with your character's current story? (See below comment)
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▻ The Strongest Beast in All Japan
A martial arts tournament being held in Japan is interrupted by the sudden appearance of the Oni Clan. They are angered for some reason, and decided to take their anger out on the people of Japan. However, the emperor of the Oni clan, Daichi, possesses power over weather strong enough to make it impossible to leave Japan. Which means that the Nomads in Japan have no choice but to deal with the Oni threat. But, is all what it seems?

▻ Wretched Automatons
A village in Germany is being tormented by machines that are descending from the mountains. This has reached a point where they have put out a considerable price for whoever is brave enough to go up the mountain and solve the problem. However, the problem is a lot more complex than that, as another plot slowly begins to unravel.




▻ The Strongest Beast in All Japan
- Brooklyn
- Margot
- Aldous
- Yeong
- Calvin
- Hank
- Vindani
- Lucas
- Yen
- Jill

▻ Wretched Automatons
- Jaden
- Justin
- Seven-Seven
- Brenda
- Otsana
- Jonas
- The One
- Veronica
- Gideon
- Klara
- Voyt
- Brown
- Inanna
- Lucie
- Askin

▻ PROTOCOL: SHEPHERD
- Sage
- SYM-04

▻ Undecided
- Fafnir

* There are some groups that may cause somewhat of an imbalance, please be aware of this when choosing a plot.

** Also, even with the first note, try to make the place you're sending your character off to make some sense and not because it's for the balance.

*** Groups will be removed from the list below once they have decided which location to head to.

▻ Current Groups
- N/A

More groups will be added as the prologue goes along.



Okay. I went back some pages to get this again so I could read where you were going with Japan and just ignore what I said. It'll work out.

I think I'll have Veronica appear in Germany though just because of the disturbance with the Dragon will lure her (thinking some Adam shit is going down) and I also want to see how Jaden would react to Veronica 2.0 lol.
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@Surtr@redbaron1234@KaiserElectricI can't seem to escape the desire to want to make a new character to replace Gideon. I tried putting the thought on the back-burner, but I just can't escape it. I'm re-reading the OOC just to make sure that when I make my new character that I can make something balanced and interesting. I have an idea for a new character, so I'll send a PM out to all three of you when I complete the sheet. I had just looked at Gideon's sheet and read the nice lengthy history and thought man, what could I create to top it but it's not too unique anymore. This new idea I have, however, is going to be something VERY unique. :) And yes, if I change Gideon, I'll have to trash Veronica as well. It seems okay thoguh. The Keijo dream happened, and I guess we can move on from it lol.
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@Holy Soldier Alright, keep us posted.
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