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@Dynamo Frokane Oh yeah, because people proved me wrong by saying that. Oh, wait. No. People made asses of themselves again, broke forum rules and didn't get punished. Came back and two people were fighting with each other for a page or so. (Which again surprise, surprise, you did nothing to stop.)

The wolf's den doesn't need my help to be filled with passive aggressive bullshit. Besides it has you. You're great, eh...you do you a lot of word copying that's pretty 'i know you but what i am' grade school shit... good enough at being an aggressive twat all on your own. :)

Can't wait for you to repeat yourself... :)
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@Dynamo Frokane Oh yeah, because people proved me wrong by saying that. Oh, wait. No. People made asses of themselves again, broke forum rules and didn't get punished. Came back and two people were fighting with each other for a page or so. (Which again surprise, surprise, you did nothing to stop.)

The wolf's den doesn't need my help to be filled with passive aggressive bullshit. Besides it has you. You're great, eh...you do you a lot of word copying that's pretty 'i know you but what i am' grade school shit... good enough at being an aggressive twat all on your own. :)

Can't wait for you to repeat yourself... :)


People are always arguing and debating in this thread, that's sort of the whole point.

But you get so worked up over that fact you cant even talk about something completely unrelated without taking a snide jab at the thread population in general. This is a political hangout thread, if you don't like hanging out here then post somewhere else. If I'm repeating myself its because you refuse to acknowledge that very straightforward bit of advice.

EDIT: No need for fucking name calling, I didn't call you anything.
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Aight fellas let's take it back a step.
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So the EPA has canceled the appearance of climate scientists at an event that deals in climate change, among other things. No explanation has been given.
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Dunno what's up with that, @POOHEAD189. It sounds like, from NYT, this applies only to EPA scientists, and only concerns the press -- which doesn't upset me, I guess, because government science is (for me) in the same ballpark as State Priests, at least when it comes to some elements of climate change......... I sound like a nut, huh, water that down a little bit, it gets across the GIST of what I mean but definitely overstating it.

Knowing nothing at all about the cancellation besides what I've read -- that sounds like it's in-bounds. Should we be funding science to look at the climate, yeah, definitely. Should we treat every press-box decision as an attack on the very existence of knowledge or whatever? naw.

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@mdk, you are aware Trump and Pence are climate change deniers, right? Just curious.
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I'm sure you've never been in the friendzone, girls chase/come to you, right?


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The friendzone exists, but there are also people who expect to be dated for being nice and that isn't a real friendzone even though it gets called it.

The real friendzone is when you start out as friends with a girl. She doesn't want to date you or she's taken, and you don't want to date her (yet) but you're both happy being friends.

And then you fall in love with her. And pain. Pain for everybody. THAT'S the friendzone.
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@mdk, you are aware Trump and Pence are climate change deniers, right? Just curious.


Skeptics, at the moment. Their positions have changed an awful lot. Whatever they needed to believe or dis-believe in order to get us out of the Paris Accords, I'm grateful.

Then again I'm not 100% sold on man-made climate change either. But that's neither here nor there.

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I'm sure you've never been in the friendzone, girls chase/come to you, right?

Yeah pretty much

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Skeptics, at the moment. Their positions have changed an awful lot. Whatever they needed to believe or dis-believe in order to get us out of the Paris Accords, I'm grateful.

Then again I'm not 100% sold on man-made climate change either. But that's neither here nor there.



Well I was hoping to find some common ground but I see that's not the case.
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Well I was hoping to find some common ground but I see that's not the case.


I don't think it's a valid scientific position to be 100% sold on ANYTHING. You too should question the models used to predict global catastrophe, especially when observations routinely invalidate them.
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I would have to agree that the notion of climate science being "settled" is outlandish, especially in the context of human impacts and effects. It is no secret that during the 1970s that the top scientists of the time on the matter worried enough about global cooling, not global warming, to consider programs and projects that would have had the goal of attempting to alter the Earth's atmosphere. By the 1990s, there was general panic among this same circle that the "green house effect" would warm the planet so much that in the early 2000s the polar icecaps would have melted largely or completely and that massive floods, storms and sea level rises would cause untold damage; this train of thought persisted for a while and morphed into the "global warming" argument. Today, they incarnate this concept as climate change, which is nothing less than a catchall term that can be thrown around without care or concern to argue the point. By this I mean I am certain you have all heard the people screaming that this past hurricane season was somehow unnatural and obviously a consequence of human invention and advancement.

The most rational thing to do is to be extremely skeptical and distrustful of the climate change argument and not just because it has previously demonstrated a willingness to forge its numbers and use hysteria to attempt to provoke a response, but because to claim they can successfully predict it at this rate is a laughable statement. They have repeatedly been wrong, knowingly target the wrong issues - Why are they focusing upon the United States and not growing industrial nations such as India or China? - and have openly lied and been caught before. No less, many of these studies haven't the peer review they claim to, in that most are all self confirming among their circle but are not demonstrated in larger circles or projects; the data just is not there to call it a closed case, especially with human influences.

What I can submit, beyond question, is that human beings do affect the climate, but it is questionable just how significant their influence is. From my perspective, I find it a bit arrogant to perceive that man is somehow a larger player than all of nature or is that tipping point rumored to be greater than all of the world's history. I believe there is much left wanting and that instead of punishing industries that are known for pollution, such as coal, that industries such as nuclear, hydroelectrical, geothermal, wind turbine, solar and so on receive incentives.
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I have to disagree with my fellow conservatives in regards to climate change. It is both real and the result of human activity.
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I don't think it's a valid scientific position to be 100% sold on ANYTHING. You too should question the models used to predict global catastrophe, especially when observations routinely invalidate them.


Yeah man some people say the earth is flat, some people say its round. Who knows? It could even be square, its good to keep an open mind on these things.
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Then again I'm not 100% sold on man-made climate change either.


I have to disagree with my fellow conservatives in regards to climate change. It is both real and the result of human activity.


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Yeah man some people say the earth is flat, some people say its round. Who knows? It could even be square, its good to keep an open mind on these things.


It's an oblong spheroid actually
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