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Hello there. I'm trying to make a posting format, and I would like to have a picture to one side, while the text goes down the other side. Something like this:

https://i.imgur.com/z4xgUw6.png

Does anyone know if this is possible with the bb code here?
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Just use the table function

Cradle.netChat room # 4
New chat room. As usual, discussing ongoing operations is off limits. That's what the magicoms are for. Remember to treat everyone with respect, Trixy.


[table][row][cell][url=Nicetrylolz.com][color=red]Cradle.net[/color][/url][/cell][cell]Chat room # 4[/cell][/row][row][cell][center]
[img]i.imgur.com/oBCiGlB.png[/img]
[/center][/cell][cell]New chat room. As usual, discussing ongoing operations is off limits. That's what the magicoms are for. Remember to treat everyone with respect, Trixy.[/cell][/row][/table]


Just keep in mind that the first line on a table will always be bold, and you might have to double the image size, as it shrinks 50% when there's a lot of text on one side
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That's gunna take some getting used to xD. But thanks.
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Hmmm... This probably isn't going to work considering every post would be changing the size of the picture. Thanks for the suggestion anyways though.
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I'm not sure I follow. All a different size means is that you'll have more/less room for text. You could also have a standard template that is always the same size. So a smaller picture would be made bigger by the transparent template around it.

How is the pic size a problem though?
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The trouble is that the amount of writing I do per post varies. Sometimes it's a paragraph, sometimes much more than that. When I was working in a test thread, the picture's size was going up and down according to how much text was there. Just one line keeping full size, a paragraph turning it down to about half like you mentioned, any further text bringing it down to about 1/4th.

I was trying to get the picture to just be on one side, static, and then the writing portion on the other.
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I think @OwO knows more about tables, but I don't know if they'll be able to help you with wrap text.

Could just take the extra effort to wrap text outside the guild and make the post look fancy for a screenshot of it instead, like what @Feyblue does, too.
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Oh, forgot about that. Yea. If you type a lot of text, the pic shrinks a lot.

Cradle.netChat room # 4
"The site seems to favor a darker, red-and-black scheme for the most part. But why is it that names have a pumpkin-orange coloring to them? Not the biggest fan of the brown coloring, either, but it doesn't contrast as badly. And speaking of the brown coloring, is there a bug with the website? It says you have over a thousand posts in a single day. That can't be right."

”Actually, I’ve been on for two days, so it’s not as many posts as you think. That and I tend to write short responses in the chat room so that I don’t get cut off by someone else.” She laughed.

"I see."

Silhouette did not actually, in fact, see.

She ran the math in her head, and even if every single post took at most 3 seconds, she would've spent an entire hour of her day merely doing the act of writing and submitting those posts, not factoring in other things such as how long it took her to come up with the reply, or how long she had to wait to get something to reply to. Silhouette was honestly reminded of the time when she learned people typically spend at least two hours of the day with their eyes closed due to blinking -- it was rather jarring in a way.

”But uh, good points about the colors. It’s just that red and black are sort of, I dunno, don’t they almost scream ‘super edgy and evil organization incoming’? ” She sighed. ”Alright I’m going to level with you. I was in mexico for a time and left the coding to a guy I found there. He built this forum from the ground up, coded it and everything. Stuff breaks and we saw a lot of random down time. But I just really liked having something that only we understood that he made from scratch. Now that I’ve been called back to Penrose I just kind of handed the code to Veronica, and she retooled it to be Cradlenet. I do like those colors but I can see about making those changes. I don’t want to change it too much though.”

"...I think I can see why you'd have issues, but the truth of the matter is that this is supposed to be used for the betterment of the Crimson Cradle now. And given what we tend to do, is the 'super edgy' vibe really all that unfitting for us?" she refuted. "We're definitely not what the Beacon pretends to be: some rainbow and unicorn-loving faction that brings hope and joy to every soul we meet. Or if we are, I was never informed. That said, I am merely giving my opinion on what I feel would fit the organization's image best. Consider it a suggestion from someone not exactly talented in this field. My purpose here is less to give input on what the site should be and more to make sure things don't get out of hand in regards to your behavior."

”I think that’s fair. But, uh.” Trixy hummed. ”What is our mission right now anyway? I mean the mint wants information, Beacon wants rainbows and ice cream, but I don’t feel like Cradle fits either of those.”

"Ours is but to do or die." Sil replied. "...But now that you mention it, I suppose we haven't explicitly established a particular goal that I am aware of. But Veronica would not create a faction like this without purpose."

”I see…” Sil couldn’t help but get the feeling that Trixy didn’t actually see


But you can also manually hit enter on each line at the correct length to make the picture bigger. The shorter each line is, the bigger the picture will get, without ever stretching past the max size you've set. the trick is to make each line small enough that the picture can appear without needing to be shrunk to accomidate the size of the longest line.

Cradle.netChat room # 4
"The site seems to favor a darker, red-and-black scheme
for the most part. But why is it that names have a
pumpkin-orange coloring to them? Not the biggest fan of
the brown coloring, either, but it doesn't contrast as
badly. And speaking of the brown coloring, is there a
bug with the website? It says you have over a thousand
posts in a single day. That can't be right."

”Actually, I’ve been on for two days, so it’s not as many
posts as you think. That and I tend to write short responses
in the chat room so that I don’t get cut off by someone
else.” She laughed.

"I see."

Silhouette did not actually, in fact, see.

She ran the math in her head, and even if every single post
took at most 3 seconds, she would've spent an entire hour
of her day merely doing the act of writing and submitting
those posts, not factoring in other things such as how long
it took her to come up with the reply, or how long she had
to wait to get something to reply to. Silhouette was honestly
reminded of the time when she learned people typically spend
at least two hours of the day with their eyes closed due to
blinking -- it was rather jarring in a way.

”But uh, good points about the colors. It’s just that red and
black are sort of, I dunno, don’t they almost scream ‘super
edgy and evil organization incoming’? ” She sighed. ”Alright
I’m going to level with you. I was in mexico for a time and
left the coding to a guy I found there. He built this forum
from the ground up, coded it and everything. Stuff breaks and
we saw a lot of random down time. But I just really liked
having something that only we understood that he made from
scratch. Now that I’ve been called back to Penrose I just
kind of handed the code to Veronica, and she retooled it to
be Cradlenet. I do like those colors but I can see about making
those changes. I don’t want to change it too much though.”

"...I think I can see why you'd have issues, but the truth of
the matter is that this is supposed to be used for the
betterment of the Crimson Cradle now. And given what we tend
to do, is the 'super edgy' vibe really all that unfitting for
us?" she refuted. "We're definitely not what the Beacon
pretends to be: some rainbow and unicorn-loving faction that
brings hope and joy to every soul we meet. Or if we are, I was
never informed. That said, I am merely giving my opinion on
what I feel would fit the organization's image best. Consider
it a suggestion from someone not exactly talented in this
field. My purpose here is less to give input on what the site
should be and more to make sure things don't get out of hand
in regards to your behavior."

”I think that’s fair. But, uh.” Trixy hummed. ”What is our
mission right now anyway? I mean the mint wants information,
Beacon wants rainbows and ice cream, but I don’t feel like
Cradle fits either of those.”

"Ours is but to do or die." Sil replied. "...But now that you
mention it, I suppose we haven't explicitly established a
particular goal that I am aware of. But Veronica would not
create a faction like this without purpose."

”I see…” Sil couldn’t help but get the feeling that Trixy
didn’t actually see


It's not user friendly, but if you want to avoid going to your paint software for that look, I don't think you have a lot of options.

Putting some text that is the same color as the guild BG might help stretch the other side to what you want. It's nothing I've tried but in theory it should work.

Also, if you're just posting character sheets and stuff like that, keeping everything in the same table on different rows should keep all the pictures about the same size.
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honestly just learn to love vertical character sheets/posts

i've experimented and fucked around with tables for hours on end and i can say that there is no other system that's more inconvenient, inconsistent, frustrating, and confusing than tables.

brokenpromise's way of hitting enter each line works for monitors, but it's absolutely scuffed on mobile. the 'invisible text' also works, but it's slightly less scuffed on mobile.

images are decent, but they don't scale since it's raster. basically mobile gets shafted if they try to zoom in.

I also found a fucking table that has the same size no matter what text you put in it. It makes me incredibly angry because it fucking works and I don't know why.

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Had an idea that might not work on mobile.

I also found a fucking table that has the same size no matter what text you put in it. It makes me incredibly angry because it fucking works and I don't know why.


Mind linkin' a bro?

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wow. Speechless here, ty for giving me a new way to formatting a post.
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Mind linkin' a bro?


this fucking CS. i have a feeling it's because of the indents and shit, but by all accounts i have no idea how it works

i have learned how it works. the [sup]_______________________________________________[/sup] is what protects the left side from being shrunk.

i have mastered tables.

i will be unstoppable.



As long as there is like, a single paragraph on the right side, it will be balanced. IE, if you delete the big lorem ipsum, it'll get fucked, but no matter how long it is, it will work.

It works on mobile, but is a tiny bit jank because of long headers with all of the -------------
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We

We have mastered tables.

We will be unstoppable.

@DoomFlavored Not sure if you gave up on the bbc code yet, but something's been unveiled that cracks the table case wide open.
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My god... that is confusing as hell, but glad it works! I might have to experiment with that later... when I feel like putting the work in instead of just posting xD

Edit : @BrokenPromise lol I was typing that up before refreshing the page, had this tab open for a while (was looking over a character sheet from someone while talking to a friend), and now that I posted see you letting me know. Thanks :3
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We need to get this shit into a guide somehow. Or stickied. Not to be prideful or anything but just like... could be helpful to people.
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@OwO Good god
It’s beautiful! Permission to steal the template to use every day until I die?
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I haven't really used tables enough to confidently write a guide about them. Only thing I did in recent memory is this skit that looks like a forum conversation. I'm sure it looks horrible on mobile since I didn't know about the "sub" trick.



If I had time to write a guide, I'd like to do "Writing collabs like a total boss" first.
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Yeah, the secret to stopping image shrinkage is to type stuff into the image's cell. This balances them out (if text causes one side to grow then it follows that it'll cause the other side to grow as well). And if you use color code #2E2C2C then it'll be totally invisible against the Guild's background. Alternatively you can place actual relevant information on that side of the sheet. Like I like to put the one-word answer stuff there under the image, like age, gender, profession, maybe a short image caption, that sort of thing.

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Just keep in mind that the first line on a table will always be bold,


Technically yes, but if you leave the first [row] empty then that is easily bypassed.

[table][row][/row][row][cell]stuff goes here[/cell][cell]more stuff goes over here[/cell][/row][row][/row][/table]
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Yes, good observation.

But that images did shrink in your CS.



But the shrink seems to be consistent on monitors. Not sure about phones.
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