DarkwolfX37

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David my cousin wants in iota. How do.

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Good day.

@Webmaster

I'm so bored

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Booooooooorrrrrrreeeeddddd

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I thought everyone was out already.

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Public reminder that MGS2 is happening right now.

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Did you read what I put there? It said very clearly that it has to be apparent and properly communicated to the consumer so there is reasonable expectation that the consumer knows about the limitations of their service. Again, it also states that if the FTC deems ISPs as abusing their power as the "gatekeepers of the net," they're going to hit them with antitrust acts because that's how the FTC operates. Right now, a majority of major ISPs have agreed to abide by net neutrality. Until they properly back out, they don't have a choice in the matter. Plus, the exact thing you're saying right now, almost verbatim, is said to be acceptable under Title II regulations.

Proof the FCC doesn't care

Your entire argument rests on "Yeah, but they probably won't actually do anything about it." We have codified laws here that outline how the government is going to ensure that consumers don't get totally ripped off and we have the evidence to show that the FTC is significantly more likely to keep consumer interest in mind than the FCC. In the end, this repeal does one thing: Control transfers from the FCC back to the FTC. Companies could throttle before, the agreement now states that they're not allowed to under the FTC, only to speed up (i.e. they cannot create slow lanes, only fast lanes). Companies could opt-in before, they can opt-in now. The only argument to be made here is whether the FTC, with everything in the 200 page document in mind, will better protect consumers than the FCC under Title II. And that's the argument I'll fight to no end defending. The FTC is still the government, but it has consumers in mind far more than the FCC does.

@Etcetera

Literally the thing in your hider is the only thing saying they can't just hide it in the ToS. They're not allowed to under Title II, that was an alternative that the fuckstain proposed INSTEAD of Title II.He said that instead of T2, they should be allowed to just put it in the ToS that they voluntarily won't throttle or censor.
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Did you even read that? Nothing in there does what you're saying it does. All it does is make ISPs have to disclose it in their ToS, which I remind you, NOBODY READS. A lawyer could take that regulation and give an ISP basically total ability to do throttling and censorship because it's not actually covered in any of that. "is not outweighed by countervailing benefits to consumers" alone gives them total freedom because internet access at ALL could be considered in that. ""Many of the largest ISPs have committed in this proceeding not to block or throttle legal content." also means nothing, because any that didn't are fine and it won't actually be enforced if they did and do it anyway. "Finally, we expect that any attempt by ISPs to undermine the openness of the Internet would be resisted by consumers and edge providers." Yeah, and look how fucking effective it is. It's being totally ignored by the FCC, so why would the FTC be any better?

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>FTC lets oligarchies happen
Kind of like the AT&T + Time Warner merger that's been going on and not blocked by the FCC?

@Nimda

The one that's taken 7 months and hasn't progressed much?

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I'm not sure why you're convinced the FCC would protect consumers where the FTC wouldn't. I know how much you dislike Pai, and he runs the FCC. Besides, the net neutrality regulations of Title II allow ISPs to break net neutrality if they put it in their ToS.

@Nimda

>ISPs bitch about the effects in the two years they've been there
>FTC lets oligarchies happen
>Title 1 does nothing
>Why are you trusting three people to make a decision that will allow five american companies to basically control the planet?
>Because I don't want lobbyists to win ever

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The FCC's Net Neutrality vote is in, guys, and it doesn't look good.

@Unhinged

Yeah because they're not actually going to listen to people like they claimed they would.