Double

DC Universe: Anarchy

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1) You are assuming that a government is inherently good, despite the fact that a government only functions through theft and violence.
But this is getting too much into politics, which could ruin the RP.

2) If you shut down a crime ring, do you lament the loss of jobs it's employees suffered? No. They find other jobs if they weren't arrested. In this scenario, there are huge numbers of new businesses being created, and anyone can start their own and offer goods or services if they wish. Sure, it won't be fixed instantly, and things will likely go down hill for a while (creating a demand for experienced police and military) but it will stabilize once enough new jobs exist.

3) Luthor's still around. He's leading Lexcorp. If I indicated otherwise somewhere, I'll fix it.

@TheUnknowable

1. No, I'm not assuming it's inherently good. I'm asserting that it's inherently necessary.

2. Jobs don't just magically appear out of thin air. You need supply, demand, and money to make that happen. Not everyone has access to those things.

3. Fair enough regarding Luthor, I'll concede that point to you.

It's not just firing the police and military that screws over the economy. What about all the disabled people, retirees, and others who were living (sometimes not even comfortably) on social security? Well, I guess they're right fucked, aren't they? Anarchy is deluding himself if he honestly believes this system is going to last. Either he's going to get overthrown/assassinated so that the government can be reinstated, or in the worst case scenario the country is going to nosedive into splintering political factions declaring independence and governing themselves. Anarchy could quash them, but that would be admitting that he's running a government now wouldn't it? I just cannot fathom why you're so surprised that the majority of us see him as the Villain in all of this.

Kingdom Hearts ~ Seekers of Light

I was just going to be from one of the existing worlds, like Hollow Bastion or one of the main connecting worlds.

@RyuShura

Fair enough, but Hollow Bastion's been lost since even before the events of KH1. It was the first world to be swallowed/overrun by Heartless after all. So you'll still need to have been somewhere at the time the Empire started attacking.

DC Universe: Anarchy

@DoubleHaving a noble goal but doing evil things to achieve it is an anti-hero, by your own definition.

Was George Washington an anti-villain? He overthrew a government in his country for the sake of Freedom.

@TheUnknowable

Anti-Heroes are Heroes who lack heroic traits, or do less than heroic deeds for a greater good. The difference is that an Anti-Hero will actually admit that what he does is wrong, and will often actively wish there was a better way. Case and point, Batman. Yes he works outside the law, naturally. But Bruce is constantly lamenting that he even has to do what he does in the first place, that he would like nothing more than for Gotham to clean up its act so he doesn't have to keep wearing the cowl.

And George Washington isn't even remotely similar to Anarchy. Yes, the Colonists overthrew the British rule. But they established an actual legitimate government in its place. What Anarchy is doing is not even close to the same. He overthrew the government and then proceeded to replace it with absolutely nothing. He even took it a step further and abolished all Police and presumably Military. Did he even stop to think about the economic repercussions of his actions? The guy literally fired every single police officer and possibly every single soldier in service. That is hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people that are suddenly out of work and now looking for a new job. The economy is so fucked in that scenario. And I seriously doubt Anarchy can simply hire them all for his security company, no way. Not even Bruce Wayne is that rich. And what about Lexcorp? Since Luthor's gone his company is likely down the toilet, which means all his employees are now also without a job. There's a very high probability that Metropolis is slowly devolving into becoming another Gotham because of this.

DC Universe: Anarchy

@TheUnknowable Every single thing you described are the actions of a textbook Anti-Villain.

Kingdom Hearts ~ Seekers of Light

@Renny@DangDude@RyuShura
Any of you have names for your worlds? Truth be told I'll need them for when I start the IC.

DC Universe: Anarchy

Anti-Hero and Anti-Villain are very similar on the surface. One way to tell them apart is that an Anti-Villain usually remains in denial and stubbornly insists they are the Hero even when it's clear they are not. Anti-Heroes rarely claim to be Heroes, mostly because they're more concerned with getting results than with what other people think of them.

DC Universe: Anarchy

@RumikoOhara Anarchy isn't an Anti-Hero by a long shot. To break down the definitions:

Hero: Does the right thing, no matter the cost, even it means giving of themselves. Example - Superman, Batman

Anti-Hero: Pursues a heroic goal, and is an otherwise Heroic character that is willing to do shadier things to get the job done. Example - Red Hood, The Punisher

Villain: Pretty obvious. They're the villain, they probably have a selfsh goal of some kind and are willing to do anything to reach it. Example - Lex Luthor, The Joker

Anti-Villain: A form of villain whose end goal isn't evil in and of itself, but the means by which they try to achieve it are evil. Example - Sinestro (still wants to enforce galactic law but prefers using Fear over Willpower) or even Ultron (wants to "protect" human life by destroying it)

DC Universe: Anarchy

@TheUnknowable I don't think any amount of explanation or context is going to convince anyone of Anarchy's innocence. Whether he dealt the killing blow or not, he still fired shots. He still let Luthor do the stabbing, and doesn't seem to be making any sort of effort to hunt the man down. And most of all, he still overthrew the government. That's not something most people can do and still claim to be the good guy. Anarchy is an Anti-Villain at best, a full-on Villain at worst. Not a Hero in the slightest.

DC Universe: Anarchy

Trinity is I hope under the radar, her powers are subtle and noninvasive

I see her tracking down dogs and cats that are lost; maybe a kid

On the side she'd send in evidence on killers pointing out things the cops missed or don't know about the killer

@RumikoOhara

I get a Scarlet Witch vibe from her probability powers. Trinity's probably nowhere near Wanda's level but she definitely seems to be in a similar vein.

DC Universe: Anarchy

<Snipped quote by Double>Nothing defensive there. I was simply pointing out where your imagination failed you because you made assumptions that a child had to come from a relationship.

<Snipped quote>You clearly don't know who Wonder Woman is then.

@TheUnknowable You sure are kinky.

@Burning Kitty

I know exactly who Wonder Woman is, and she's nowhere near as strong as Superman, the man who literally lifted infinity that one time. Can Wondy bench press a planet? Because Supes can. Pretty sure he's several times stronger. Kryptonians, they be broken a.f. yo.