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Again, David's a regular human bar Aspects. Regardless of intelligence he hasn't had time to not have his things predicted by Dark before he died.
Yeah actually it is. If you know the entirety of the Hunger Games series and I know just the first book, you can predict my various reactions on the second book. That's what I'm saying. What you were saying is that if we both know only the first book, but you read it on a tablet and I read it via a physical book, neither of us would have an advantage. You were right, but it's not relevant and completely ignores the entire side of the argument that comes from me because it's stuck on a false concept.
Except Dark didn't know him well enough. Your argument is 100% assumption.
No, the argument is instead that even if you have a plasma gun or a nuke, if I hit you in the temple really hard with a rock, you're going to die. But let's say this is a really strange rock that you have to put together that has no practical purpose, other than hitting people in the head. It's still a rock, technologically inferior, something you can plan for, etc. But unless you know exactly how someone's going to throw it and where it'll be (in which case you can still get hit), your best bet it to run and hope you don't get hit.
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Oh, you don't have to worry about me!
I probably do!
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*red spikes shoot out of my body*
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Leave.
*They get through the ice, but I remain*
You don't know who I am. Nobody does.
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Actually, it's totally great timing! If we can manage to defeat her and put her to sleep or something, we can keep her in stasis until we're ready to fix her! And, if Ridge up there can win against Rythian, we'll have him down for the attempt too! Then we'll only need to find Tempo and Spirit and we'll be able to fix everybody before it gets any worse!
Just be safe!
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Dane:
*appears, seeing serenity attacking you, and manipulates te ground to surround her feet and ankles*
Stop it serenity, this isnt who you really are. I know the real you.
*looks to Anna*
Hello.
The "more people" cliche is getting a bit old!
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Well, hi there, Serenity!
Bad time!
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They don't. One might but I'm not using them. Again, Dark was the one who would know. But he would have prepared for anything he knew of before he died. And not really, the explanations are pretty impossible to stop. Fusing a Source with it's Paths doesn't really have a counter. Because I'm in a situation where I know less than my characters, so it's hard to fill up holes. Again, you've done it before, you should know this.
Knowledge advancement, not tech advancement. There is a HUGE difference.
Except this was made what it is after Dark died.
Either way, the point isn't changed.
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How are you not realizing that I don't have to in order for one of my characters to? You've done it before too.
I've never said that it's more technologically advanced. This is the third or fourth time I've had to say that. The strongest efforts over ten years does not, is not, and cannot be something that trillions of years of equally strong effort would not have found ways around. You're also not even defending the planet, you're defending the universe, which in much, much more difficult to create. You're trying to say that 2 is better than 15 because it's more effective in some impossible nebulous way.
Because you have to know in order for your explanations to work. Your characters probably don't know either. Right now, you're using a superiority argument that doesn't hold water.
Yet you're using the advancement argument.
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*absorbs a large amount of heat from a small area around us*
*Freezes around you*
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Because of the 17 years, at least 4 of them weren't usable for anything, and more likely 7 of them weren't. David has spent most of his life in his home dimension or at least on various earths. There's not really any dimension control resources possible from that, and if it's from the Scale buffer then it wouldn't really be able to alter dimensions because the Scale and Buffer don't have dimensions. I mean, it could possibly do so, but it's less than 50% that anyone would be able to come up with a good enough reason, even if we all worked together to think it up.
Again, the only way it could work is directly manipulating Code somehow, likely very specific parts. Tier Five had/has a system to do that, but it wouldn't really lend itself to making a new one, sort of like trying to use Java to write a new programming language that isn't just a condensed/alternate Java.
Saying that Tier Five couldn't use a defense system like that doesn't make any sense. A homebase or meeting place any number of other things would make it useful.
Even if David were just like 2000 and had spent 1000 years of work alongside Myth and Z, I could kind of see that. He's brilliant enough to have a reasonable chance for that. But 10-13 years, most of which were in a dimension where time moved relatively slowly, meaning less work is possible relative to other dimensions, it just doesn't make any sense on paper, and I don't see any possible way to explain it. At least with Dark it's an Edison situation, find an infinite number of ways to do something incorrectly and a tenth as many ways to do what was intended, plus going around to countless other universes simultaneously to learn what other things knew/had recorded/etc. David's interacted with, what, 20 other geniuses? The input you've got just doesn't calculate to the output. Hell, even just getting broken into now and then using that to make it into what it currently is would make sense, but it just doesn't compute right now.
You literally don't know what you're dealing with. You don't know how it works and you don't know what it does. Stop trying to use ignorance as an argument.
I didn't say they couldn't. They didn't because they don't have a use-case. It's also not a security system.
Not when the strongest efforts were put into defending the planet, utilizing a system that covers its own holes. And as I said before, nothing ever claimed it to be the most technologically advanced solution, just a effective one.
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