Kho

Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

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TO DUEL! FOR THE FATE OF THE WORLD!

@Lauder

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DUEL! FOR THE FATE OF THE

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FOR THE FATE OF

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THE FATE

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FATE

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The king is dead, long live the king! [Reboot] [5/7]

@frapet Now we must :(

Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

I have asked this question many times and it has been explained just was well. To my knowledge, leveling up into a god only applies to Amartía since he has a godly soul, and even that is a stretch. The rest of you halfings must squirm.

@LokiLeo789

I'm pretty sure it's mentioned somewhere in the OP that the demigod requires divine essence from a god, not only levels. Amartia being the exception due to a pre-existing divine essence.

@Kho, am I dead?

@ActRaiserTheReturned

I don't know, but we can check for you.

Kho: Hey mate, come here for a second
Thulemiz: What d'you want, inferior creature?
Kho: Can you check if this guy is dead?
Thulemiz: ...do I have to?
Kho: It would help...
Thulemiz: I think it's a bad idea...
Kho: Why?
Thulemiz: You don't want to know
Kho: So is he dead?
Thulemiz: If he is, there's no way I'm raising him
Kho: Why?
Thulemiz: You really, really, don't want to know

We can confirm from the above exchange that Act, you might actually be dead (though I hope you're not, because that would just be weird mate, go get yourself check out). Not only might you be dead, our local Necromancer is against bringing you back :(

Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

OH People!

Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

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Though that would barely work for Loki, since no god has condemned 6 out of 7 sins. No one has ever told "hey, don't drink and eat too much friendo" but in Loki's posts there is gluttony as a sin. This could change with Logos finally tried to place some order around, but right now the kho-definition of sin would basically neutralize it since every single god is a wacko.

@Double Capybara

What I mean to say is that to be the demigod of sin, Sin would have to create sin by prohibiting certain things, and when they disobey him they sin. If he so pleased, he could make everything a sin, and so rather than making everyone hedonistic and making Xerxes whakoland, he just makes everything they can possibly do a sin and they can go about life as usual. Except they can't because they're scared shetless that they'll sin and be punished by their god-king. Would be quite a twist, and totally something horrible that Sin would do.

Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

@LokiLeo789 Didn't I once go on a tangent regarding what sin is, properly speaking? It's not so much the thing we call a 'sin' itself which makes 'sins' bad (i.e. killing someone on it's own isn't really a sin, it's just an action which may or may not be viewed as immoral).
What makes a sin a sin is the intention to disobey a higher being (i.e. God, a god, a higher being of some kind which has ultimate authority). Sin is merely the intentional disobedience of the command of said higher being.

So, if a higher being tells you that eating burgers is prohibited, and you go and eat a burger despite knowing of that command, then you have sinned. If you eat a burger by accident, or are not aware of the command, then you cannot be said to have sinned (though your culture or whatever may view eating burgers as immoral or encouraged or whatnot.) It seems like a straightforward and rather uncomplicated understanding of sin, especially since the term is so heavily connoted with religion in general (we don't hear people arguing that murder is sinful so much nowadays, it's more the 'immorality' of it that is highlighted, and morality is very much a relativistic construct, man-made but most likely influenced by religion in most, if not all, cases).

If you read Peter Abelard's Ethics, where the nature of sin is discussed, you'll find therein a very convincing definition of sin, that is: a sin is where one consents to doing something which they know is wrong, or which they know God disapproves of, and in so consenting they are in fact showing contempt to God. It is this consent and contempt which is the true sin, and not the action itself. Thus, where one commits adultery, it is not the act of sleeping with another man's wife which is the sin, but the mental consent to doing what God disapproves of, and thus the contempt of God shown by such consent. Where one commits adultery and such consent does not exist, and thus no contempt, one cannot be said to have sinned.

Kho Paraphrasing Abelard Ages Ago

Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

@Antarctic Termite Cappy has certainly been creative when it comes to avatars (pardon the pun xP) but the point of the doubling rule is that it prevents there being too many avatars for any one god. Avatars are immensely powerful beings, even ones not designed for war or combat. Having a hoard of them is meant to be discouraged. But if Cappy wants to crack a deal with Fate, I'm sure something can happen

Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

@LokiLeo789 Did you ever mention how many people live in Xerxes?
And I think I mentioned this in Mk.I; a worshipper is a genuine worshipper. One who truly believes in their heart of hearts in the given god. One who pretends is not truly a worshipper. Those who live in Xerxes have been warped to such an extent that it is difficult to say if they truly believe or whether that's simply the influence of the time and space they occupy. Likewise for any place that exerts any influence on someone's mental faculties and free will. A place like the Valley of Peace actively forces one to become, well, nice. That doesn't mean they immediately become worshippers of Niciel.

Those who enter or live in New Chronos are physically unable to do harm, but they are mentally entirely free (see: Amartia in Chronos; Corruption of the Victors in Chronos) and so their decision to worship Belvast and Illunabar and the Bard and Vowzra and Belruarc are their own (and obviously, also because it's the religion which developed there over an impossibly long period of time).
So, back to what you say, no, simply existing in Xerxes does not make one a worshipper of Sin.

Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

Time

@Rtron

If only we had some kind of hyperbolic time chamber on Galbar where people could go and have all the time they want. But alas, no such thing

Mid/High Casual - Divinus: The Deity Roleplay Mk.II

@Cyclone Edited the first part a bit, but will send it to you once there's more in the second part ;)