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Can't we be Picard and Riker?
Lord Wraith
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Reluctantly retired roleplayer.
Except when I'm not.
Why are you here when you should be writing posts?
You can edit a bad draft, but you cannot edit a blank page.
Except when I'm not.
Why are you here when you should be writing posts?
You can edit a bad draft, but you cannot edit a blank page.
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Can't we be Picard and Riker?
B-B-but... you have to MAKE it your avatar. Otherwise what's the point? LOL
I like Cereal
On a happier note, I made my Avi for this RP.
I really think it's going to help bring people in.
I really think it's going to help bring people in.
I like Cereal.
@Lord Wraith To be fair, unless a hero comes around that can basically cream Superman with him having almost no hope of winning WITHOUT using kryptonite, AND said hero becomes as mainstream as Batman/Superman/WW/Cyborg/ext while also being countered by one or two of those heroes as hard as they counter Superman, Superman is just a better villain than a hero. Hes just too strong otherwise.
Marvel is way better at hero balance than DC. You could lose Superman from DC and not lose much, and infact everything would be better as heroes would counter heroes and such and no hero would feel so super domineering in-universe as it does now. Sure Batman would still be top billing, but people are ok with him since lots of heroes can beat him 1v1.
I completely disagree with this entire sentiment. Superman is one of the most compelling heroes out there and the fact that he isn't challenged often is the fault of lazy and uninspired writers. For years Superman has faced off against Lex in a battle of wits and people loved it. The thing people always forget is that they look at Superman and see his impressive array of powers and assume that nothing can challenge him.
But Superman beneath the suit is one of us, he's human. And the best Superman stories are written when the writer remembers that.
Everybody hurts sometimes. And pain doesn't have to be physical. The best stories for Superman are the ones that push his mind and heart to the limit, the ones that make you feel for him. Likewise, Superman has to show amazing restraint in his life, he could easily reach out and snap most of his foes' neck but he doesn't. He doesn't because he's better than that, because he stands for something. Even in a world made of cardboard, Superman takes care not to cause unnecessary harm. He's spent an entire life managing strength that's strong than a locomotive, blending into a world that moves at a snail's pace next to him and all because why? Because he knows the responsible that comes with such power, he cares for the world and truly wants to do better for it. He knows he can't just muscle his way through saving the world because guess what? Humanity is screwed up, you solve world hunger, we'll cause a world drought, you cure cancer, I'm sure we'll create a new super disease. But you can protect humanity and that's what Superman is, he's a protector, a watchful guardian. But he is not a despot, he's not a dictator and he's not an enforcer. A well written Superman shares no traits with that of a villain.
@Lord Wraith
You want a way to make a decent Batman vs Superman formula?
Look up Injustice and Injustice 2...
Played them both, and while they're great as one shots, there's no coming back from that story line. I can't see Superman being redeemed, Wonder Woman is basically a despot, at least Flash and GL got some redemption in 2. But if that's the path they took for the cinematic universe they'd basically be permenantly cementing Superman's place as a villain. Unless a cinematic universe took more time to play Superman as sympathetic, something I don't find the games too. Haven't tried the comics mind you, but yeah, after the Joker is killed, I don't feel sympathy for Superman anymore. Anything beyond that was extremism making him a terrorist.
I actually enjoyed BvS more than WW and worry that Whedon will undermine Zack's ongoing tone and vision
I'm kind of hoping he does exactly that because I don't like Synder's tone or vision. Everything is so dark and washed out, everyone is so dark. These are comic book movies, Wonder Woman was bright and vibrant (where appropriate, war and London not so much but to be fair they shouldn't be).
Batman Versus Superman was a mess. At the very least it should have been broken into two movies to give us time to develop motivations and characters instead of rushing through a wild goose chase of a plot. The first movie should have ended with the Batman and Superman fight, while the second movie would have focused on the fallout of said conflict with Lex going on to create Doomsday leading to the death of Superman.
We had a brief discussion regarding the movie in Discord yesterday and while I think it was Member who said that it had to happen before Justice League, I disagree. Batman and Superman should of had time to work together, friction building in their differences before eventually they come head to head after a mission goes horribly wrong. Batman could have quit the League and gone on to do his own thing before his actions bring him into conflict with Superman once again, ala The Dark Knight Returns where this entire idea is ripped from.
Batman Versus Superman should never have been the second entry to the DC Live Action Universe, and Suicide Squad should definitely not been the third. Warner Bros. should have set up their trinity in solo movies, hell even skipped Batman because you can, everyone knows his story. But yeah, I definitely think it should have been Man of Steel, Caped Crusader (Since Dark Knight was already done), Goddess of Truth and then led into Justice League where we introduce characters like Aquaman, Flash and (ugh) Cyborg. This then leads to spin offs and greater universe building.
/Endrant
I really want to like DC Movies, but they're making it so freakin' hard to do so.
@Lord Wraith mm... We'll see. Depends on how much meddling the WB management does. Thats why everyone but WW was so bad. If they don't meddle and let the director DO THEIR JOB, then it should be fine.
But they have to catch up to Marvel and they have toys to sell.
It was Synder who had to step down due to a family emergency (his son committed suicide). So Joss Whedon was brought in to do shoot the last scenes and take over editing.
In Joss we trust.
In Joss we trust.
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