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Current Fuck yeah, girlfriend. Sit on that ass! Collect that unemployment check! Have free time 'n shit!
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2 yrs ago
Apologies to all writing partners both current & prospective. Been sick for two weeks straight (and have to go to work regardless). No energy. Can't think straight. Taking a hiatus. Sorry again.
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2 yrs ago
[@Ralt] He's making either a Fallout 4 reference or a S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky reference i can't tell
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2 yrs ago
"Well EXCUUUUSE ME if my RPs don't have plot, setting, characters, any artistry of language like imagery/symbolism, or any of the things half-decent fiction has! What am I supposed to do, improve?!"
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2 yrs ago
Where's the personality? The flavor? the drama? The struggle? The humanity? The texture of the time and the place in which this conversation is happening? In a word: where's the story?
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Curiously, as it interests me a great deal, what exactly do people want done/changed? What policies and all.


Tell them in Cyn's thread that I want an apology from Mahz.
j8cob#3406
If you think power is a benefit and not a responsibility,


That's how it's being treated right now, not how I want it to be treated. You're confusing prescriptive and descriptive ethics, which is, like, Logic 101, dude.

Curiously, as it interests me a great deal, what exactly do people want done/changed? What policies and all.


  • Mods do their jobs. (This one is harder for some than for others.)
  • Mods do their jobs in a prompt and timely fashion.
  • Mods do their jobs without bias, prejudice, or favoritism.
  • Mods do their jobs without whining about how hard it is and how little it pays. You volunteered your way into the position and you can volunteer your way out of it if actually fulfilling your obligations is, for any reason, too difficult.
  • Mods do all of the above with transparency and honesty.


In theory all this was already in the job description so I don't think I'd be asking for much.
@POOHEAD189 How is being able to kick/ban anyone you dislike, and getting away with it at no costs to yourself, not a blatant social benefit?

I was banned for (not) breaking a rule which doesn't even exist on this site. And we still haven't seen the proof of Nyt or J8cob's wrongdoing. In fact the mods cannot even deign to tell them what they did wrong in the first place, instead making up bullshit about how they "know what they did wrong."
Easy: cronyism. When a mod does something stupid and wrong (e.g. banning someone unjustly), the other mods' immediate kneejerk reaction is to assume they're justified, ignoring all facts and available evidence meanwhile. I'm one of the lucky ones who got his claim investigated by another mod, but most of the victims mentioned in these whistleblowing threads have not yet received that luxury. They haven't received their justice.



"Those screenshots" referring to the ones in Grimhildr's original thread, now found here. And if you sincerely believe they don't incriminate most of the mods then you're either blind or delusional.
We're here to clean up a mess when it's reported and help out users when they need something.


No privileges or benefits really exist.

@The Spectre Interesting how we're supposed to take J8cob and Nyt's versions of the story with a "large grain of salt," whereas the mods have consistently refused to give us their side of the story at all. Like, who are we supposed to believe when we're presented only one side of the debate, and the other side refuses to engage or respond altogether?

@AngelofOctober On the other hand there was an autistic/savant moderator on RSWiki who banned anyone he didn't like, for any reason he chose. And this isn't something you can cover up, since everyone can see the edit histories of the user and forum pages; so when it came to light that these people were banned unfairly, this mod hid behind his disorder(s) as an excuse. He got angry easily, he was tired and cranky, he didn't know what the other person was saying or why he was trying to be so "mean" to him...whatever the case, always an excuse. He was always the ill-perceived victim both of his own brain and of other people's cruelty, and his autism always shielded him from criticism, since he "couldn't help himself," in one way or another.

Eventually the site staff wised up and booted him from his position of power, but most of the damage was already done, irreversible.

"Making accommodations" sometimes crosses the line into blatant favoritism. Not to mention that if you're a moderator, nothing excuses you from the responsibilities of your post. If you're unfit for the task then you don't belong in that station, plain and simple, particularly when plenty of other users on the site are more competent and fair than you, and can easily be equipped to replace you and give the site a proper leader. Giving power to the less-capable as an act of mercy, or even pity, is just foolish.
If you are a moderator or an admin, and you think to yourself 'I don't have time for this shit' then you need to either fucking make time or step down. You are here to give your time to the community. If listening to people's issues gets too time consuming/annoying to you, then people's issues do not get addressed. Your JOB is to address them.


Yep. We've got at least one mod, and maybe more, who think that being a mod just means building a power base; kicking and banning the people you dislike, and letting the surviving sycophants line up to suck your clit. But once it comes time to actually read threads, delete the ones which break rules, settle disputes, and so on, suddenly they "can't handle this right now" because they're too tired, busy, distracted. They don't have to do anything when it's inconvenient since it's "not exactly a paid job."

Like, motherfucker you volunteered for it. What's more, you're one of the few who were actually accepted as mods from the large pool of people who volunteered, meaning you were deemed among the best of the bunch for the position. Who the hell are you thinking you're above the obligations of the position, whereas reaping the privileges is perfectly easy and desirable?
I know I've only been here a week, but lemme give all you peeps some advice. Be yourself and if you get banned, then fuck it - there's plenty other sites to go to. If you're involved in a creative environment, but are afraid to say things or talk about things for fear of being banned then staying isn't worth it.

No matter how much work you put into this place, or time you devote to it, unless you own the site then being a member here is a "blessing not a right". There are no laws stating that they have to do anything when it comes to whom they ban.

Personally I haven't had any problems here yet, being new, but already this place looks a little shady based on the mod's responses.

A lot of websites have a Ban List, with the name of the user and a pic/link to the post that got them banned. Nothing else said about it. It's a locked thread so no one can reply to it. This is a great idea because it will stop the questioning of your judgments AND make sure the mod's can't abuse their power because they have to show the proof of their actions.

And people should be able to make appeals for others, especially if they have evidence. There's really no legitimate reason to not allow that, except for the fact that you don't want to.


That line of logic—"If you don't like it, go play another game"—has ruined far more communities already. If the owners/staff/moderators (of any site, not just this one) are immune to criticism then they have no real incentive to change anything. If they can dodge their responsibilities by telling themselves, "There are other RP sites for these whiners to move to," they'll never find a reason to make their own site better. After all, you cannot reconcile a simple difference in tastes between two roleplayers.

Frankly, this thread symbolizes progress. The first 2-3 times this happened the mods fully committed themselves to damage control: they tone-policed, claiming that you could discuss any controversial topic you like but only with certain pre-approved styles of rhetoric. They blatantly censored, first claiming that they deleted threads for their "insulting" or "inflammatory" nature, but then deleting the same threads a second time even when edited to fit a non-provocative tone. And this censorship, as a matter of fact, transcended the site itself and its connected applications, as some mods tried to prevent us from discussing these issues in others' Discord channels, and even in my own. They didn't want the story getting out anywhere.

If they're allowing this discussion to finally take place, they must have realized that their coverup failed. Utterly and spectacularly. People are naturally curious, and some of them even risk bans/mutes to find the answers they seek. They go to the mods seeking these answers, and when the mods refuse to provide them, those players will talk to each other instead, including people like me, the ones with big mouths and bold opinions. Hypothetically speaking, I can lie to these curious parties, or at least present the facts to them through a biased lens, whereas the mods have finally realized that letting us speak for ourselves, publicly and openly, in a forum where we're held accountable only for our own explicit words and actions, means no one will have to wonder why someone was banned if he said something offensive in this thread. We can read it for ourselves. Further, the opinions expressed here cannot be cherrypicked, taken out of context.

At least while this thread is up, we don't have to speculate anymore as to why so-and-so was banned, nor what inflammatory things he said preceding this penal action. Here we're held accountable for our own words, presented in their purest form, directly from our own mouths. To flinch from this thread, to decry its existence, is to eschew honesty itself.

I'll add, too, that although this site is seriously flawed, it's also the best I've found for quenching my thirst in writing creative fiction. For that reason alone, I'd sooner help in any way I can to repair it than simply burn bridges and migrate to another. A nigga ain't shit if he ain't loyal.
I sent my edits to the GM and he hasn't approved/denied yet.

Although even if I was accepted, I planned on waiting a few rounds before posting anyway. Wanted to be sitting somewhere that the other characters just happen to walk into, not just blindly stumbling into the story like every other lame-o :^)

So yeah I'm hoping this doesn't die but I'm powerless to help.
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