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Kirina: alright, ive had my fun terrorizing you all.

*suddenly, a field goes up around me, scutting off all current attack, and i seemingly phase out of and then back into existence, cutting off martyn's abilities attached to me*

Zero:

*both of me dissapear, and one of me reaapears next to kirina*

Kirina: let this be a message to you all. Unity is dead. Graveny, I, and Zero here are now the most powerful being in existence, spare Prism. 
You cannot and will not stop us. Existence will fall, and once I've dealt with you all, I'll defeat Prism as well. Go on with your petty little lies for now. And next time, try to provide an actual challenge, please? You are all still really weak.

*both of us dissapear*@souleaterfan320

Darn it!

May i point something basic out?
Humans wrote the bible.
As such, even if god told someone to write it along with what to write, it is very likely that there are human errors, and that something may have be lost in translation.
That being said, there should be some kind of flexibility applied when reading it as it is religious material and not a literal guide on how to live your life. Besides, everyone has a different view on things in life, and that is especially true of the things we read, as words, although descriptive, can have many different meanings, making them imprecise. 

That's all i have to say.
If you want to point out something to me, I'll be happy to listen.@Darlit Glitch

If God did tell someone what to write, then there is no reason to believe there are errors. If God is all powerful and all knowing, then there is even less, because he would know how to set up the variables correctly to achieve the results he desired. If you want what Dark said

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No but see David and Spirit believe the bible to be completely literal in its entirety.@DarkwolfX37

Here, he's incorrect. But it should be interpreted literally unless there is reason to believe otherwise.

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So did one of the apostles in their sections. Don't remember which. Might have been Luke. 

It's a pretty apt parallel. 

Not if he's the one who wrote the first howevermuch of the NT. 

That's because people know the OT was in all sorts of languages. I'm pointing out to you that, even before the errors into greek, there was translation that allowed for errors. Then again, the stories were heavily altered so they'd be related by the Jews, so... Kinda a moot point to a point. 

Okay, dude. The topic is demonology. You're basically saying that no sources means no proof when discussing what happens in Harry Potter. You may as well be saying that I don't have any proof that Dynamo made X because I don't have a link to the post where it was stated.
I don't know how few sources you're getting your "views of historians" on. Probably ones still saying that yoshua's existence isn't contested much? And seriously, the reason people don't debate over stuff like that is because they're fucking historians, not theologians. Theologians have pretty much universally split down the middle on, for example, whether Satan and Lucy are the same person. It generally depends on whether they're christian or not, funnily enough. 

Yes, but I'm talking about the parts written first in the NT. The NT wasn't written all at once, and a lot of it came after other bits of it. You're even saying "primarily in greek" because you know that there were other languages used in writing the NT. That fact means that the translation of it matters, just like it matters when talking about the OT. 

Another fun thing about sources is that, unlike you, I don't specifically go after sources that share my bias for information. The meaning of Cain's story was by jewish sources and directly opposed the demonology sources I had, yet since it made more sense, I adopted it. You've literally said that if the bible said the earth was flat in blatant terms, you'd believe it over any evidence otherwise. Which is why I specifically avoid that topic anymore, because I don't want to convince you that the earth is fucking flat.

Now kindly, shut the fuck up, because we know how this ends, we know this goes on forever, and we know we're both stubborn enough to keep going so long that we veer off into completely unrelated topics and argue for days or weeks over what could eventually turn into fucking plant science or something else equally unrelated, and we've been really good about not dominating the OOC with long pointless arguments, so 
@DarkwolfX37

To the first four, we're discussing the NT; the OT is essentially ubiquitously Hebrew. If you want to claim someone made up words, find an example. Burden of truth.

Historians care what the past was, including the documentation of alterations in literature. To use that example, it would be like you saying Harry Potter was originally a Thomas the Tank Engine fan fiction with no legitimate sources to back it up.

I say "primarily in Greek" because I don't know of any books that weren't written in Greek, but I'm not certain that there aren't any. But there literally is no translation issue.

The key is that it doesn't. I don't recall saying this, but it's a hypothetical that means literally nothing. The Bible is either a book of truth or a book of lies, and a hypothetical like that entirely undermines the premise of the debate, making it invalid. You have no sources to back up your argument and I have a plethora peer reviewed documents that I've linked several times.

I wrote this as I went and don't feel like putting all of the effort to waste. Besides, it's a cheap tactic to end it after making all sorts of claims.

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