Before I say anything, I'd like to make a point that resorting to brainless internet taunts like "weeaboo" is pretty much a guaranteed way to make me immediately not even take anything you say seriously, period. The only obvious exception to this would be if someone was behaving this way in an attempt to try and make me not take them seriously when I should (yes, I'd be able to see through that), which certainly isn't the case here. It's also rather hypocritical to call someone a "weeaboo" when you exhibit some of the traits of one yourself (liking anime, for example).
So with that in mind, you'll forgive me if I've decided not to even bother wasting my time catching up on the entire discussion in this thread; it's already beneath me on that one word alone. I've been thinking about putting up a post in this thread at some point specifically related to this sort of immature name calling bullshit and get it off my chest... you know, actually use this thread for what it's meant to be used for instead of flame wars, hmm...? Just sayin'...
Honestly, this happens all the time, whether it be online or offline... A lot of people are just shit debaters, and by shit debaters I mean immature debaters. Answering criticism with criticism is one way that people are shit debaters, but calling people names or just being directly offensive or aggressive towards the person themselves (think bully with a small package bad upbringing talking down to other kids to feel superior), instead of the argument and points in question, is another way. By the way, so is tossing up pointless gifs in the midst of posts due to lacking anything insightful to actually contribute to the discussion (they're fine sometimes, even if I have no taste for a lot of them, but frequently they're just crude and juvenile attempts to give substance to an argument that has none; sort of like an animal that has no debating skills to begin with and relies on savagery), and the exact same thing applies to people tossing out memes like "edgy" or "triggered" (amongst other labels that idiots like to use, such as "self-righteous" or "preachy"). A lot of people need to learn how to show some class.
You're telling me... Last time I came here, the most recent posts I saw involved a healthy and normal bit of ranting about how people who throw second-hand smoke in other people's faces are jackasses (I more or less don't see what's the difference between doing that to people and slowly putting a knife into them), and then me giving a bit of social commentary about some flaws in the education and workforce systems, and how society has been degenerated by them (and by other things too)...
I come back to this thread, and now this nonsense again...?
I've got a deep understanding of psychology and the human condition myself, so in this regard you and I are quite similar, @The Architect. We're also similar in the sense that, thanks to my rather heavy-handed philosophy and a general tendency to really be forthright with people (we all know how much all the anonymous cowards hiding behind their masks hate someone who's forthright in this era, don't we), I usually end up becoming an instigator of conflict everywhere I go due to most people's overarching inability to debate with some manner of intelligence. The fact that I don't give the slightest shit what other people think and will not be talked down to by anyone doesn't help the matter (we all know how much people love men who are doormats in this era, after all). Due to all of this, I usually avoid a debate entirely unless I think the other side is actually intelligent enough to put my time into.
That being said, I'm already facepalming just looking at the condition of this thread since I last showed up here, so I don't plan to get involved in this train wreck. This sort of flame war is precisely the reason why people on the internet get so much bad reputation as being a bunch of assholes with no lives. While I find a good debate very engaging, both to watch and to take part in myself, there's already several elements about this discussion that make it clear that the term "good debate" doesn't belong here. I think some of the people in this thread need to do themselves a favour and go post up a flame war thread in the spam forum. This is supposed to be a place where people can discuss their annoyances... not get into toxic cat fights with each other, m'kay?
While @tsukune mentioned he's just here to watch the drama (and that's all this is, since it devolved below the classification of a debate a long time ago from what I can tell), I don't even want to waste my time looking at that drama. I'm only here looking at this thread again because he mentioned it to me over Skype, but now that I've actually taken a look I'm worried I'll actually start getting stupider if I keep reading this drivel. There's a good reason I think "trolls" need to get a life.
So, for everyone who actually decided to read my entire post (as I mentioned in a previous post of mine in this thread, there's far too many role-players who don't like reading walls of text when you take into account that this is a fucking writing-focused website), allow me to summarize my post... My personal gripe to add into the thread for today...? This type of garbage going on right now.
So with that in mind, you'll forgive me if I've decided not to even bother wasting my time catching up on the entire discussion in this thread; it's already beneath me on that one word alone. I've been thinking about putting up a post in this thread at some point specifically related to this sort of immature name calling bullshit and get it off my chest... you know, actually use this thread for what it's meant to be used for instead of flame wars, hmm...? Just sayin'...
I find it annoying when people do this without even attempting to discuss reasonably.
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You avoided having to engage with criticism by turning it back on the accuser - you answered criticism with criticism.
Honestly, this happens all the time, whether it be online or offline... A lot of people are just shit debaters, and by shit debaters I mean immature debaters. Answering criticism with criticism is one way that people are shit debaters, but calling people names or just being directly offensive or aggressive towards the person themselves (think bully with a small package bad upbringing talking down to other kids to feel superior), instead of the argument and points in question, is another way. By the way, so is tossing up pointless gifs in the midst of posts due to lacking anything insightful to actually contribute to the discussion (they're fine sometimes, even if I have no taste for a lot of them, but frequently they're just crude and juvenile attempts to give substance to an argument that has none; sort of like an animal that has no debating skills to begin with and relies on savagery), and the exact same thing applies to people tossing out memes like "edgy" or "triggered" (amongst other labels that idiots like to use, such as "self-righteous" or "preachy"). A lot of people need to learn how to show some class.
Shit... after reading that entire debate I realize coming here to talk about door to door salesman being annoying pales in comparison now.
You're telling me... Last time I came here, the most recent posts I saw involved a healthy and normal bit of ranting about how people who throw second-hand smoke in other people's faces are jackasses (I more or less don't see what's the difference between doing that to people and slowly putting a knife into them), and then me giving a bit of social commentary about some flaws in the education and workforce systems, and how society has been degenerated by them (and by other things too)...
I come back to this thread, and now this nonsense again...?
I've got a deep understanding of psychology and the human condition myself, so in this regard you and I are quite similar, @The Architect. We're also similar in the sense that, thanks to my rather heavy-handed philosophy and a general tendency to really be forthright with people (we all know how much all the anonymous cowards hiding behind their masks hate someone who's forthright in this era, don't we), I usually end up becoming an instigator of conflict everywhere I go due to most people's overarching inability to debate with some manner of intelligence. The fact that I don't give the slightest shit what other people think and will not be talked down to by anyone doesn't help the matter (we all know how much people love men who are doormats in this era, after all). Due to all of this, I usually avoid a debate entirely unless I think the other side is actually intelligent enough to put my time into.
That being said, I'm already facepalming just looking at the condition of this thread since I last showed up here, so I don't plan to get involved in this train wreck. This sort of flame war is precisely the reason why people on the internet get so much bad reputation as being a bunch of assholes with no lives. While I find a good debate very engaging, both to watch and to take part in myself, there's already several elements about this discussion that make it clear that the term "good debate" doesn't belong here. I think some of the people in this thread need to do themselves a favour and go post up a flame war thread in the spam forum. This is supposed to be a place where people can discuss their annoyances... not get into toxic cat fights with each other, m'kay?
While @tsukune mentioned he's just here to watch the drama (and that's all this is, since it devolved below the classification of a debate a long time ago from what I can tell), I don't even want to waste my time looking at that drama. I'm only here looking at this thread again because he mentioned it to me over Skype, but now that I've actually taken a look I'm worried I'll actually start getting stupider if I keep reading this drivel. There's a good reason I think "trolls" need to get a life.
So, for everyone who actually decided to read my entire post (as I mentioned in a previous post of mine in this thread, there's far too many role-players who don't like reading walls of text when you take into account that this is a fucking writing-focused website), allow me to summarize my post... My personal gripe to add into the thread for today...? This type of garbage going on right now.
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