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@GeravenI'll take you on if it's a fight you want...
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Posted a CS :>
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Greetings from the Luchalliance.

It is a sad day for competition, and unfortunate news I must sadly bear to all of you assembled for the 2017 TZDL competition, and yet my scorn outweighs my sadness, my anger outweighs my caution, and my disdain outweighs my amicability.

When I was personally invited by name to attend the Duel League event being held in RPGuild this year, I reached out to friends and allies to create something memorable. We desired to make a splash, inject some life and color into the event, and promote the spirit of heated competition and showmanship often lacking in such events. In pursuit of this goal, we banded together to create an alternative collective of beloved characters – our Luchalliance. We were told that the Duel League was a competition for characters on the higher end of the ‘medium’ power classification – a place where many Luchalliance players excel. We were told there would be honor and glory to be won.

We were sadly misled.

After being forced to make concessions to La Màquina’s sheet that not only break the spirit of her character, but render her easy elimination in the preliminary rounds of the tournament a nigh-certainty, I conferred with the other fighters of the Alliance and discovered many similar stories.

My friend AtlasRize was summarily rejected from the tournament with little explanation given, no chance offered to correct grievances with his entry, and informed that he need not reapply to this TZDL event, or any TZDL event held in the future.

My friend Tezcatlipoca was informed that Rey del Oscuridad II’s sheet was bitterly contentious and on the verge of outright rejection, and yet has gone for close to two weeks without a single word offered by way of advice, correction requests, or indeed anything else which could be used to correct this ‘bitterly contentious’ sheet.

I myself was subjected to the revocation of my approval to compete immediately following what I perceived to be a respectful, if somewhat heated, discussion of the Luchalliance usage of the term ‘ether’ and our methodology of inclusiveness rather than exclusiveness concerning the use of mystical phenomena-based powers and abilities. This revocation came with a list of requests which resulted in the forced reduction of La Màquina to very nearly low tier levels of ability should I wish to compete at all – and this in the face of a tournament where a single character is permitted to consist of two full-sized dragons able to devastate the entire battlefield at once with unavoidable bombardments of lightning.

I am not afraid of Jason – indeed, I had looked forward to putting my Dragon Slayer skills to the test, as such a battle is precisely what I’d hoped to find in a tournament advertised to me and mine to be squarely up our alleys. There are many names in this competition I had been fondly anticipating the opportunity to test, eager to see for myself the extent of RPGuild’s power when it was unleashed in full in high-tier combat. Sadly, my backhanded rejection from the tournament and the questionable treatment of my fellows does not afford us the opportunity to meet you on the field of glory.

The Luchalliance has decided as a unit to withdraw from the Duel League Tournament. We will not waste our time further with a man who clearly does not desire our presence and ‘invited’ us merely to try and inflate his numbers. To those of you who were in turn anticipating testing yourselves against the Masked Warriors of the Alliance, I invite you to seek out individual challenges against warriors you favor. I myself hear that @Doc Doctor is in search of ranked matches often denied him here As a demonstration of good faith, as my last match ended rather anticlimactically, and because Gonad amuses me, I offer such a match to you, Doc, should you be willing to contest with La Màquina as she was originally written – the way she was intended to be played. Win, and you may claim your season points with my blessing. Lose, and Gonad must wash his beard. With actual soap.

May your masks go forever unsullied, fellow champions of the Ring. And to the TZDL management team, I say this: good fucking riddance.
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Hidden 7 yrs ago Post by MelonHead
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tl;dr our characters were too strong, someone else's character seems stronger, we can't fight under these conditions, we're all leaving.

Farewell, may the winds of battle take you somewhere that appreciates your notions of character balance and wonderful masked wrestlers.
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@Devil
I have made the edits.
Hidden 7 yrs ago Post by Vordak
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eleventy keks

@DLL you guys better be here for whatever next tournament be hosted on the guild. now aint the time for RP fighting communities to be drifting apart, y'know.
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eleventy keks

@DLL you guys better be here for whatever next tournament be hosted on the guild. now aint the time for RP fighting communities to be drifting apart, y'know.


We have no intention of absconding forever, as my offer of challenge to Doc indicates. This particular 'event' has simply burned too many of us for the rest to continue to desire to compete. We shall be around.
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Once I win this tournament, I'm gonna come after each and every one of you with Alexander. I'll show you the power of REAL WRESTLING!
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Well to throw in my two cents, ether being used as a blanket term for the origins of certain abilities didn't bother me, because I honestly don't really expect complex explanations for that shit though I can certainly say I appreciate them.

The only beef I had with the Luchalliance was some of the characters had items/weapons on their persons granting unexplained immunity to magic and other barrier types.
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@LeeRoy Do better than you did with Virtuoso. At least, if you intend to challenge me within my own tier again. Hm hm, fine enthusiasm however! That is indeed the spirit.

@Albatross City Such things are holdovers from the original sheets the characters were converted from. Had Mobius not flipped schitts over the lot of us being powergaming chumps trying to steal his money (as if any of us believed he was going to actually be paying us if we won anyways), I have no doubt such immunities would've complied with the 'resistance' rules declared within the tournament. La Maquina's own resistances were culled from her original sheet for a reason.

It's my view that over-fussy profile acceptance processes pre-tournament are an aggravating waste of time - ensure the sheet is written in a way that the player's intent to comply with the spirit of the tournament is clear, move on, then punish transgressions in-match with points off in judgment. For one, it allows an event to get rolling much more quickly and smoothly. For two, it offers an opportunity for a player to polish their Underdog skills, rolling with whatever breach is occurring if possible and in the doing score major points with any competent judge. Players who break the spirit of a competition in order to try and win within technicalities of the letter of said competition should not advance regardless of their lawyering ways.

That is, after all, a disgrace to their masks.
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Hidden 7 yrs ago Post by LeeRoy
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Don't bring up the Virtuoso thing, that whole fight was an embarrassing thing.
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@DLL You're still here? Why?

It's a tournament. You either comply with the tournament host, or you don't and move on. I don't agree with all their choices, but It's ridiculous to bad mouth them simply on basis that they do things a certain way, and it's different From what you were expecting. If its not for you, it's not for you. Though my reasons were somewhat different, that's why I didn't join. I already knew it wasn't for me. Not my style of competition.
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Hidden 7 yrs ago Post by LeeRoy
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Oh baby here it comes. Hold onto your butts.
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Hidden 7 yrs ago Post by Guru
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Whatever he has to say, he might as well keep it to himself. I said my piece.

/overit
/arguingoveritisstupid
/Youquitperiod
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Hidden 7 yrs ago Post by Maquina
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@Guru When I'm addressed, I'll respond. To a point, anyways. I expected to be @'d a great deal when Mobius and the others show up, but I'm going to do my best to be a good little girl and abstain from that particular fracas.

No promises, however.
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Hidden 7 yrs ago → 7 yrs ago Post by Alucroas
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@DLL You're still here? Why?

It's a tournament. You either comply with the tournament host, or you don't and move on. I don't agree with all their choices, but It's ridiculous to bad mouth them simply on basis that they do things a certain way, and it's different From what you were expecting. If its not for you, it's not for you. Though my reasons were somewhat different, that's why I didn't join. I already knew it wasn't for me. Not my style of competition.


Well, he's not the only one who has had disagreements with Mobius. You should see the discord chat, there are arguments left and right, and things have gotten far more heated there than over here on these boards.

Frankly I agree with what Laser said about handling people's characters through judgments and not through this rigorous-as-shit profile screening which has been grating on my patience for a long fucking time. Profiles should be given an individual once over, possibly even a twice, and thrice-over, but at this point it's starting to become a dick-and-balls-in-a-vice over with layers of scrutiny involved over every vein and wrinkle of the scrotum.

Edited for emphasis.
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Ill just change the name on this and... there we go!

@Albatross City You're still here? Why?

It's a tournament. You either comply with the tournament host, or you don't and move on. I don't agree with all their choices, but It's ridiculous to bad mouth them simply on basis that they do things a certain way, and it's different From what you were expecting. If its not for you, it's not for you. Though my reasons were somewhat different, that's why I didn't join. I already knew it wasn't for me. Not my style of competition.


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Once I win this tournament, I'm gonna come after each and every one of you with Alexander. I'll show you the power of REAL WRESTLING!


Good shit, Lee. H2H combat is not some cheap gimmick to be toyed with on a whim for the sake of a trend. I held this opinion in silence, not wanting to offend. This ridiculousness has gone on long enough now, though. Don't mistake this for a power trip, or simple bragging. The truth should be evident in what I'm about to say.

Any luchadores who remain in this tournament, I'll deal with in a manner so comically effortless, so repulsively severe, that forever after when they contemplate the description of a punch or a kick, a grab or a throw, the memory will surface like the white whale Ahab so foolishly sought after. The heart will clench, breath will come short, cold sweat will run down the back. Turning the true basis of all combat into a three ring circus? A half assed forum dispute?

Luchalliance. Perhaps you've just never seen a character literally shit down the severed stump of their enemy's neck. I'm willing to toss my sense of humor aside to demonstrate.
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i'll grab y'all by the groin

scientifically proven most effective combat maneouver
Hidden 7 yrs ago → 7 yrs ago Post by Negatomsk
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Good shit, Lee. H2H combat is not some cheap gimmick to be toyed with on a whim for the sake of a trend. I held this opinion in silence, not wanting to offend. This ridiculousness has gone on long enough now, though. Don't mistake this for a power trip, or simple bragging. The truth should be evident in what I'm about to say.

Any luchadores who remain in this tournament, I'll deal with in a manner so comically effortless, so repulsively severe, that forever after when they contemplate the description of a punch or a kick, a grab or a throw, the memory will surface like the white whale Ahab so foolishly sought after. The heart will clench, breath will come short, cold sweat will run down the back. Turning the true basis of all combat into a three ring circus? A half assed forum dispute?

Luchalliance. Perhaps you've just never seen a character literally shit down the severed stump of their enemy's neck. I'm willing to toss my sense of humor aside to demonstrate.


The point of a tournament is to have fun, and we all thought we'd have that fun by tailoring our characters to a theme and tossing them in, at least such was the idea until the profile-policing drained any chance of fun out of this for most of our members. And for you, who submitted Gonad Yaksplitter, pro-wrestling bearer of the Beardforce, to call our themed profiles ridiculous is the height of hypocrisy.

That said? Bring. It. On.

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