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I have shrunk my traditional dairy use in the last few years by huge margins, I will say. I drink almond and rice milk (almond/soy/rice have their own problems don't get me wrong).


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I'd like to think that one can hate both of these things and want them to be changed for the betterment of society. But I have been owned in the marketplace of ideals, and that's just my two cents any how.

Plus, I don't just hate gen-AI for purely environmental reasons; they're just ugly as hell to look at, and I don't want to see them on my roleplaying site.
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I am generally in the mindset of not using AI for posts and admittedly have been regularly jump scared by the AI children in the thread.

However I do find the dogpiling a little funny when I imagine everyone who is anti-ai for environmental co2/water use reasons here, is probably also not vegan (happy to be wrong on that one though). Of course no one is perfect on every issue, but that's a solid reason not to come at an issue with sanctimony, glass houses and all that.



Yes but the meat and dairy industry produces something actually useful.
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Looks like chicken wings are still on the menu, boys!
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Also the raw size of the meat and dairy industry it's water consumption should be higher.

But I feel like we're going down another rabbit hole that we should probably climb out of.

Quick say something related to comic books...

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Also the raw size of the meat and dairy industry it's water consumption should be higher.

But I feel like we're going down another rabbit hole that we should probably climb out of.

Quick say something related to comic books...


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Well, I had to ask. Couldn't think of anything else to change the subject with lol.
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Well you get points for something I guess
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Mighty fine, provides a nice vantage point in your yard for me to watch you in the shower... Oh you mean the RP!
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Don't vegetarians still eat dairy products though? And isn't Bat Cow female? Damian just wants milk from the source.
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Don't vegetarians still eat dairy products though? And isn't Bat Cow female? Damian just wants milk from the source.


I just noticed Bat Cow is a Winter Soldier fan
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Also the raw size of the meat and dairy industry it's water consumption should be higher.

But I feel like we're going down another rabbit hole that we should probably climb out of.

Quick say something related to comic books...


Sure, but there's 'higher' and 'higher by an order of one hundred thirteen thousand eight hundred seventy-five times.'

But after using my shovel to dig us deeper, I shall now actually comment on something related to the rp, and work on getting 'out' of this mess.

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I really enjoyed it, the style of nation rp posts via a mix of overall narrative and PoVs remind me of the glory days of Nation RP and so it hit me with the nostalgia bat a lot.

I am biased towards Genosha because it, along with Krakoa, are easily my fave Mutant storylines but I am very invested to the point it's definitely making me consider a mutant/mutant team for my second character. Your ground up approach to how we're perceiving this early political unrest is a great choice.
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I'd like to think that one can hate both of these things and want them to be changed for the betterment of society. But I have been owned in the marketplace of ideals, and that's just my two cents any how.

AI was meant to be a tool, not as a replacement for artists. The issue with the ethics of what these AI are trained on (people SHOULD be compensated) and how we utilize it to make positive progress for society are other conversations, for sure. It needs to be regulated, but we as the working class cattle that we are, we cannot stop it. Technology moves forward no matter what, so the best we can do is how we engage with it.

Plus, I don't just hate gen-AI for purely environmental reasons; they're just ugly as hell to look at, and I don't want to see them on my roleplaying site.

Yeah, they certainly look unnerving. The way these generative prompts AI uses have improved scares me a little. Just compare it to the results a few years ago.
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I don't understand why anyone's coming at this from an angle like the images are completely essential and the post can't exist without it. If you want to depict Bailey as Captain Marvel you don't need an image for that we have the written word that's what this entire hobby is. In fact, leaning on AI to create that image for you instead of using language to describe the important visual elements honestly just hinders you as a writer. It's even evident in how your immediately jump to AI. You don't think anymore, you just go 'yeah AI can generate that for me'. Why? It would be so much more interesting to include a written description that could highlight the elements that are important to your story and your desired interpretation of the character. You know what I get from your AI-generated image? 'Yeah that's a guy in a Shazam outfit'. And then, as mentioned, I take psychic damage, and then I move on.

I am generally in the mindset of not using AI for posts and admittedly have been regularly jump scared by the AI children in the thread.

However I do find the dogpiling a little funny when I imagine everyone who is anti-ai for environmental co2/water use reasons here, is probably also not vegan (happy to be wrong on that one though). Of course no one is perfect on every issue, but that's a solid reason not to come at an issue with sanctimony, glass houses and all that.





But if it makes my arguments any more valid, my partner and I use dairy substitues as she's lactose intolerant and it's easier to buy one shared product instead of two separate ones, and we don't eat pork, and she's debating giving up beef as well.

Generally I think meat and dairy reduction is the main way we save the planet.


The way we 'save the planet' is going back in time 20 years and committing murder. We should still commit murder now, but it's retribution at this point rather than a workable cure or preventitive measure.
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Just to be clear, whataboutism as a logical fallacy is when its being used to discredit an argument or accusation (as in the definition you helpfully linked), as opposed to just suggesting we might avoid ganging up on someone in a comic book rp thread from a high horse.

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AI was meant to be a tool, not as a replacement for artists. The issue with the ethics of what these AI are trained on (people SHOULD be compensated) and how we utilize it to make positive progress for society are other conversations, for sure. It needs to be regulated, but we as the working class cattle that we are, we cannot stop it. Technology moves forward no matter what, so the best we can do is how we engage with it.

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Yeah, they certainly look unnerving. The way these generative prompts AI uses have improved scares me a little. Just compare it to the results a few years ago.


It's a real shame that the compounding impact of being a technology crypto bros are intereted in means you just keep recruiting crypto bros and everything gets worse.
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Just to be clear, whataboutism as a logical fallacy is when its being used to discredit an argument or accusation (as in the definition you helpfully linked), as opposed to just suggesting we might avoid ganging up on someone in a comic book rp thread from a high horse.



Essentially.
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So…crazy weather we’ve been having amiright?
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