Jeeze guys, are we trying to get to the point where Lucius Cypher's sig no longer applies? :P
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Kol: *Has passed that point a long time ago... maybe?*
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WEll if by basement you mean sex dungeon and by "excessive and compassionate hospitality" you mean an orgy. Axon is game. It's already confirmed Lorelai wants him.
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WEll if by basement you mean sex dungeon and by "excessive and compassionate hospitality" you mean an orgy. Axon is game. It's already confirmed Lorelai wants him.
You wouldn't be so eager for it, if you knew what Asgard can do to him. I'm sure you realize the risk of blood magic mixed with this kind of activity, right?
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Isn't that Lucky's line?
*TheWindel fites KoL regardless*
If she complains, I'll show her her rightful place.
Also, you're lucky that I'm not home now, or else, I would get an appropriate fight theme right now.
@KoL
Let us all hope that Eris' optimism survives first contact with reality. I'll see about posting tomorrow if classes don't kill me with all the reading.
Eris is no dumb. She has an actual plan (the same one from before), that just represents a change in her view point and since I wanted her to have a significant conclusion at the end of Chapter 01, that whole ordeal worked like a charm.
Plus, one can't lose the chance to play music like that. It's a crime against anime.
Itsuko M. Kanzaki
"You should take care with these, I just-" Itsuko tried to tell Hibiki that she had just taken the hot pocket out of the microwave, but by the time she finished the deed was done. "Too late."
"Oh! Do you have money on you, or a credit card? We could go shop on the mall. Someone like you would become even more awesome with some cool clothes. I can help you choose'em." Itsuko said when Hibiki mentioned fashion. Truth be told, Itsuko wore things that she thought that looked cool, not exact the same kind of fashion as other girls would go for, yet the random combinations managed to look very trendy. It helped that Itsuko had lived overseas for some time, so her taste was definitely influenced by Western punk fashion.
"Overlord, huh? I really like, have you ever thought how it would be to be stuck inside your Deep Ground Avatar?" Itsuko got up from the table and rummaged through a few piles of books around the left side of the living room with the skill of one who knows their own organized chaos better than anyone else, before coming back with the whole series and any extra material she could find. "I can lend you them, if you wish. Everything on the left side of the room are things I have already read, the ones on the right are those I haven't yet. Also, the next time you want a book, any book or magazine at all, I can give you the number of my bookdealer. She can literally get you anything, no matter how rare it's."
"Do you like music, Hibiki? We're going to a club tonight. If you can to come I'll introduce you to my friends, I'm sure they'll like you." Itsuko asked before falling silent for a few moments, breaking the silence again after she read an email that had just arrived at her phone. "I-I'm being rude, am I not? People say that I have no notion about how it's to live on the real world because I can have anything I want at anytime. That I don't know what is to make an effort to get something..." Itsuko fell silent again, looking to the side with a slight blush on her face. It looked more like she was ashamed of something than apologizing, though.
Eris Reinhardt
"You're weird, Cassandra O'Shera." That was Eris' immediate reaction to Cassandra's declaration, though it wasn't said in as much a hostile as an amused tone. "Just like you may never figure me completely, I'll likely never find all the pieces of the puzzle that's you. But, you know me, if there wasn't a challenge involved, I would not like it."
"Even so", Eris snuggled against her mother in a way that she would really only do with her mother and none else, before continuing, "For you to come and say all of this in front my mother, who you haven't even met up to now? It's just you who would do that."
Following that amused declaration, Eris chuckled, no... outright laughed "Anyway, Mom, this is Cassandra O'Shera, the girl who stole my nights' peace. And, Cassandra, this is my mother, Hildr Reinhardt, apologies for the overused cliché, but she's the best mother one can hope to have." With that said, Eris hopped off the table and began to walk to the front door, stopping by the shelf right beside it to pick up her cherished book and the turning back to face both Cassandra and her mother, "I'll be going now, mom, you can feel at home, after all you are. When I'm back we can talk more."
"Come on, Cassandra O'Shera, I'll not walk behind you, anymore, so I expect the same of you in relation to me. Let us draw a conclusion out of this ordeal. I can't let those people see my crying face for free, after all!" Yeah, there were conclusions to be drawn, but... that was only the beginning. "A blade, once broken can never become the same again, but who's to say it cannot be reforged into an even mightier weapon that can cut a path to a different future? This battle isn't over yet, but I won't be fighting it alone anymore." In a few minutes Eris descended to the Shopping Arcade, bellow the building complex where she lived and was waiting for the others, sat in front of her usual café.
It was time to change a age on Eris' life, for better or worse the old her was dead, but what would be of the future Eris, only time could tell.
@Caits, @Lonewolf685, @TheWindel, @Lucius Cypher, @Jedly, @Mega Birb, @Ryonara.
*I'll do Absinthe's part later, I'm running low on time. Sorry.
The hell is with this symbolism talk? This isn't English class people <.<
Isn't it? Come on! I want my money back, I was scammed!
@Caits
It's not a discussion, it's a debate and, actually, the one who ignited it was I. Eris' very existence was the cause for it.
@Lonewolf685
And I feel you you as well.
Nevertheless, life continues. Let's press the RP onward! DGO has finally picked up the steam again, after a huge ass period of near non-activity, less not let the ball slip from our hands.
By the way, damn you, Windel, I spent half an hour rationalizing that problem. It's right and wrong at the same time, either way it's cool Mathematics. Mulling over geometry really makes one feel like the old masters of the Classic Era.
There's nothing more fulfilling for the math oriented mind than solving this kind of riddle.
It's not a discussion, it's a debate and, actually, the one who ignited it was I. Eris' very existence was the cause for it.
@Lonewolf685
And I feel you you as well.
Nevertheless, life continues. Let's press the RP onward! DGO has finally picked up the steam again, after a huge ass period of near non-activity, less not let the ball slip from our hands.
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By the way, damn you, Windel, I spent half an hour rationalizing that problem. It's right and wrong at the same time, either way it's cool Mathematics. Mulling over geometry really makes one feel like the old masters of the Classic Era.
There's nothing more fulfilling for the math oriented mind than solving this kind of riddle.
Hmm... I'm infinitely glad that this kind of philosophical debate has risen from what is a cyberpunk RP in all but name, thereby philosophy is a given at any time, since cyberpunk lives and breathes on existentialism/nihilism above all else.
Now, I would be even more glad if this extended to it's rightful place as well, that is, the IC tab. It's cool to discuss the work from a meta POV, but doing the question IC is what really counts.
While I should comment that there's no right or wrong when it comes to these things, just different viewpoints, here are my retorts to the last couple posts.
Yeah, it may have been the case when DGO was implemented. A hasty measure to try to prevent social collapse that's inherent of bad planned politics that result from the unleashed spread of predatory capitalism.
"Dog eats dog" being the key phrase here.
However, there's a problem with hasty, easy solutions, people get accommodated far too fast. Once you give them a bone to gnaw on, because there's no meat, most will not let the bone go even if the chance of meat is promised after a trip to another place. After all, why risk what you have now, if you don'thave the guarantee of success? That's just how people are.
On the current state of DGO, people grew used to the Deep Ground Program. They lost their drive to fight for themselves because it's simply in human nature to do so. The game isn't new, it's an established part of society, it means that people got used to it long ago. Even the best medicine becomes a poison if use take too much of it.
DGO as it currently exists is a cancer to the society.
You're mostly right in everything, except that you take a false premise. DGO isn't about collaboration, it's planned as a MOBA game. Sure, you can have a team of buddies and there are some random creeps that you can slay, but ultimately you'll only progress over the ladder by crushing other people under your feet.
DGO promotes a nocive society built over children that are bred to ignore others suffering in their own favor. Sure, it's a world where one needs a bit of a steel mind if they wanna trive, but you don't need to become full apathetic and sociopathic to do it, DGO however breeds that.
You'll only succeed if you cause others to fail, if the bottom line of DGO, instead of you fighting for your success and leading other people to theirs. If you don't believe on how ranked MOBA games breed monsters out of people, try to play ranked League of Legends and you'll see.
That's a study case of the nociveness of combined internet anonymity and enforced competition... on a game that ultimately amounts to nothing, even if some poor sods think they can become "pro gamers" if they climb to the top of the ladder. Instead, put your character's future on the line and I'm sure you can escalate things well enough to see how much of a hell DGO must really be.
Now, I would be even more glad if this extended to it's rightful place as well, that is, the IC tab. It's cool to discuss the work from a meta POV, but doing the question IC is what really counts.
While I should comment that there's no right or wrong when it comes to these things, just different viewpoints, here are my retorts to the last couple posts.
Alright, time for a little more philosophy. The concept of Deep Ground was created some time in the near future (Let's say 2020, give or take a year) as a last resort to determine the best canidates for jobs. I'm sure everyone knows that it's steadily becoming harder to find a job in modern parts of the world as it sits, but what will it be like in thirty or forty years from the current time? Simply put, Deep Ground was born out of necessity and reflects the true, cutthroat nature of humanity. The strong survive, and the weak fall behind. Exactly like reality, if you think about it.
Yeah, it may have been the case when DGO was implemented. A hasty measure to try to prevent social collapse that's inherent of bad planned politics that result from the unleashed spread of predatory capitalism.
"Dog eats dog" being the key phrase here.
However, there's a problem with hasty, easy solutions, people get accommodated far too fast. Once you give them a bone to gnaw on, because there's no meat, most will not let the bone go even if the chance of meat is promised after a trip to another place. After all, why risk what you have now, if you don'thave the guarantee of success? That's just how people are.
On the current state of DGO, people grew used to the Deep Ground Program. They lost their drive to fight for themselves because it's simply in human nature to do so. The game isn't new, it's an established part of society, it means that people got used to it long ago. Even the best medicine becomes a poison if use take too much of it.
DGO as it currently exists is a cancer to the society.
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Sorta. If you really want to really look at the symbolism, you could look at it like this: In a way, deep ground is a metaphor for human survival in the sense that it strips living down to its bare essentials, fighting for survival. It sort of tugs at the human instinct to fight and come out on top, to the fairly primal survival stuff, since the system is based around killing stuff.
The problem with deep ground is that it seems to promote a cut-throat nature, cooperating for mutual gain and also resorting to backstabs if it works for you, basically being extremely selfish in order to become successful (though that isn't really how it turned out I guess)
Technically speaking though, Deep Ground is also a good indication of cooperative play because you need other people working together to beat really tough content and having people watch your back is pretty essential in a cut throat industry.
It's sort of like the old strength to smarts debate (sort of). Which one is stronger, the guy who lifts 50 kg everyday or the guy that made the theory of relativity? The thing is, both can beat the other one way or another, or that's how it should be. The problem people have in Deep Ground is that, in theory, the guy who lifts 50 kg everyday will come out ahead of the relativity guy, though it was explicitly stated that a level 1 guy can beat a level 9 guy if he had advantages.
I don't actually know where I'm going with this, but I got to say that I agree with you. Deep Ground does represent the dog-eat-dog mentality of real life but the fact that you can succeed by getting carried by your high-level friends or wreck a dude several levels higher than you by using your brain also represents real life in that doing weird shit sometimes also gets you places.
You're mostly right in everything, except that you take a false premise. DGO isn't about collaboration, it's planned as a MOBA game. Sure, you can have a team of buddies and there are some random creeps that you can slay, but ultimately you'll only progress over the ladder by crushing other people under your feet.
DGO promotes a nocive society built over children that are bred to ignore others suffering in their own favor. Sure, it's a world where one needs a bit of a steel mind if they wanna trive, but you don't need to become full apathetic and sociopathic to do it, DGO however breeds that.
You'll only succeed if you cause others to fail, if the bottom line of DGO, instead of you fighting for your success and leading other people to theirs. If you don't believe on how ranked MOBA games breed monsters out of people, try to play ranked League of Legends and you'll see.
That's a study case of the nociveness of combined internet anonymity and enforced competition... on a game that ultimately amounts to nothing, even if some poor sods think they can become "pro gamers" if they climb to the top of the ladder. Instead, put your character's future on the line and I'm sure you can escalate things well enough to see how much of a hell DGO must really be.
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And why do I get the feeling it's going to be a copy and paste version of Yoshino or Retsu's plans...just with more edge. Like explosions riding on motorcycles <.<
You might surprise yourself with this one. Eris is neither an emotionally emaciated apathetic, nor a manipulative dark lord wannabe. She's more like a ball of tangled emotions. She has fought her war alone in the dark for too long.
If you do an analogy with weapons (or even their in game classes, which were chosen by the system based on personality traits they have). While Yoshino would be a dagger and Retsu the poison, Eris would be a sword. She's not cut for secrecy but rather, dying the gritty job none of them can.
@KoL Flying around in a super awesome fighter jet that shoots nukes and lasers and then gets missiled in the face. Jk, but I'm going to bed now. See you all tomorrow morning.
You're not even wrong, you know that? Now, I wonder, I'd Eris does become Cipher in this scenario, would out make Cassandra be PJ? Poor Cassie, she really had to draw the short staw, didn't she?
EDIT:
I lie, Eris isn't Cipher (she was never meant to be), she's actually Wizard One.
Also, I don't know to who this is relevant, but this song certainly IS relevant on this RP's context.
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