Letter Bee

The Ghost of Napoleon

@Pagemaster, Can I have Lord Byron as King of my Greece? I dislike Otto the Barvarian.

The Ghost of Napoleon

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So historically, Greece was usually under the patronage of three powers in Europe:

- The Francophile faction, which was usually aligned in the more conservative powers of Hellenic government and favored a more gradual shift of the country into modernity after Ottoman rule.

- The Liberals and Irredentists, who found themselves being found under the influence of the British.

- The reactionaries and Orthodoxists, who liked the strong power of Russia's status and mutual orthodox heritage to, again leverage power against the Ottomans (I think you're noticing a pattern here)

OTL the conservative factions in Greek politics would largely end up winning internally, but Greece herself was by in large under the whims of a British establishment - who in turn would end up being pro-Hellenic more often than not, due to the interests of the expanding Greek state likewise also serving as a natural check to both Russian and Ottoman interests in the Balkans. In that vein, your best bets for any fruitful alliance here would most definitely be Britain, who was very interested in a Hellenic state who could fulfill that role.

@Yam I Am

Thanks!

The Ghost of Napoleon

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Russia will be in the midst of a civil war for a little while and will not have the ability to project power into the balkans during it.

@Lady Lascivious

That is okay.

Want a volunteer battalion for either side?

The Ghost of Napoleon

@Lady Lascivious, be Greece's patron? :P

The Ghost of Napoleon

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To make a long story short:

There isn't one: There was only one when you acted like these events that Muhammad Ali did historically were - as I said earlier - things he could do in a vacuum and wouldn't attract anyone's attention, when in reality, they all certainly did.

If you just made it clear that you're willing to go in knowing that Muhammad's actions likely would have resulted in the Oriental Crisis occurring to make Egypt a vassal state of the Ottomans again (as it did historically with a 5 nation coalition against Egypt), then...sure. There's nothing wrong with your sheet whatsoever.

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@Yam I Am

Oh. Well, that makes sense.

So it was my misunderstanding Page which caused the mess in the first place. I can accept that - But it was still honest ignorance which caused the misunderstanding; I did not know how people work and admittedly didn't care to do so until August of last year.

The Ghost of Napoleon

@Dinh AaronMk, as you're here, I have to ask: What exactly was so wrong with the Egyptian Sheet? Or would it have been accepted if not for my attitude?

The Ghost of Napoleon

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@Yam I Am

Oh. I meant the map Dihn posted on the OOC OP. That was the IRL map and not the RP Map?

Edit: Nevermind; I was blind.

The Ghost of Napoleon

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Welcome to the club

@Yam I Am

I notice that the map still has Greece as Ottoman. Can you help me remedy that ICly?

HORIZON: In Wastes, Our Dreams

@Letter Bee You can play as a Human. They’d just not be an Outsider.

@Dog And yeah, I can try running it for nowwww.

@ERode

Thanks, btw.

The Ghost of Napoleon

@Letter Bee Bee, gotta be honest with you. Didn't think I'd wake up and do a shift of work to come back to forty-some-odd posts of squabbling with you about shit. Especially when I can say without any irony: damn you got the whole gang laughing. And if this is the sort of thing I can expect, and the absolute inflexibility of anything then I will have to deny you. And not only for that, but for the first time deny you for posting cringe.

If you want to be a part of this RP after this, then I will have to state: you must now go to the Balkans or the Baltics.

God damn it.

@Yam I Am
Checks out chief, welcome aboard.

@Dinh AaronMk

And I will respect your decision (Yes, this is an edit).