Nimda

Myriad Reality

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I'm claiming that it isn't incorruptible and always applicable. And no, there are major changes and contradictions that would require throwing some out to fix, or re-canonizing certain pieces. The Lucifer being the serpent is one example, which Jewish (I don't remember the term used in relation to this information, so I'll just call them:) scholars say isn't the case. You the error with translating to Latin that confused Lucifer and Satan together. (As examples of major changes.) Or the directly conflicting instructions on dealing with having a raped daughter. (As an example of a contradiction.)
If you can reconcile every single issue, then great. I'm not on about that. I'm showing that it is corruptible and isn't always applicable. And unless every single person has the same interpretation of the same version of the same collection of what's considered canon, then you're just setting up the stage for a "holy" war. Does that track or...?

@DarkwolfX37

You base all your information on minute copies that nobody accepts because they've been proven to be illegitimate, unoriginal, etc. That instantly invalidates your claims. But like everything else, we've wasted countless hours discussing this.

Myriad Reality

You're getting better. Keep it up and I might actually have to kill you before you surpass me.
Rythian: I'm done playing now.
-Sorry?
Rythian: Your power comes from the fact that you can manipulate virtually anything, since you used to be the only one who had these abilities. That's the only reason you're a Noble.
-...
Rythian: And now that you know there are others out there who can do what you do, you keep me alive because you need consistent proof that you're still the best at what you do. I'm sorry to say that your era is over.
-Why, you-
Rythian: *Is covered by layers of red and yellow energy, then virtually instantly runs up to you and jabs you in the neck*
-*Is hit, caught off guard, and grips my throat*
Rythian: Time to prove who the peasant really is.
-You die. Here and now.

@Intrepid

*Walks toward you*

Myriad Reality

@DarkwolfX37
Only comment is to check your studies.

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Wait, I thought I said that teleportation (and, by extension, portals) doesn't work inside the barrier. How is this working?

@Mammalia

He's peeling back the barrier layers one by one in that small spot.

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But my point is that if they are meant to be punished, then they will be. But it's not inherently humanity's job to punish each other. If God does it through us, then so be it. That's what your final verse is talking about. But you have to understand how imperfect our system is, how often people get punished by our system when they have genuinely done nothing to constitute the punishment. Our laws are in place to justify punishment, and it is far from perfect. In a way, it is our form of having people go out of their way to "deal justice." In reality, we can never tell these days from just looking at it if the punishment our system executes is truly a punishment from God or simply a misunderstanding caused by human imperfection and unfortunate circumstance.

In short, what I am trying to say is that, on top of everything else that I have said, we cannot reliably consider our own government or others to be consistently dealing with things the way God wants 100% of the time. I hope I articulated this little bit well enough, I had a hard time putting it into words.

@Valiance

Which is why I support a theocracy with laws entirely dependent on God's laws. Incorruptible and always applicable.

Myriad Reality

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Hmmph. Well, at least you finally wisened up to the attack.
-Ruby- I don't think that deserves an "at least"!
-Oh, whatever.

@Mammalia

You will die.

Myriad Reality

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*teleports out of its way*

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*Ruby blocks the slash*

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Serenity, hit the centre of the seams with all you've got!

@Mammalia

*Breaks apart the trap*

Myriad Reality

Okay, I just picked up two GTX 980 ti cards for a total of $330, as long as they don't cancel on me. I'm just going to say that I stand behind Jonny's arguments, because I'm way too ecstatic about this and anxious about them holding their end up.

Guys, I want to apologize for my incompetence and for being ignorant. I've done a lot of thinking and concluded that I should not participate in debates due to the fact that I am very uneducated and 'blissfully ignorant' as my father put it. He was right.

@souleaterfan320

You're not. Feel free to continue discussing.

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There are some cases it's warranted, but not many.

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Um... No? It doesn't.

@DarkwolfX37

It is, look it up.

By the way, Jacob, you never responded to Arthur's mindscape post with Ridge. I think David's waiting on that before he posts with Misty. Or alternatively you all completely forgot about it.

@Mammalia

Was waiting on you, and also for LB response.

Myriad Reality

Possibly getting a 700 dollar item for less than 200 dollars. I'll get back to you all soon, when it's done.

Myriad Reality

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You can't draw a line between them because they overlap in some cases. Just as all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares, all legal rights/wrongs should be moral rights/wrongs, but not all moral rights/wrongs should be legal rights/wrongs.

Legal Wrong = Moral wrong that hurts another
Legal wrong = Moral wrong that negatively affects another person's property.

@Galaxy Raider

"Draw the line" means to define it. Even if they overlap, you can draw the lines that intersect.

How did you arrive at this conclusion other than what you personally want to believe? Upon what basis do you derive this belief?

Myriad Reality

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If the person wants to hurt themselves, then it's up to us to try to help, bot force our help upon them.

Legal wrong and right and moral wrong and right are two different things. Legal wrong and right is forever changing, but moral, as you say, is static. And as far as legal wrong and right go, I feel that if you did not hurt someone or damage/take their property, then it shouldn't be against the law.

In the same boat, moral wrong and right are not dictated by the government, you're right. But legal right is at the government's discretion.

@Galaxy Raider

I disagree.

Draw the line between legal and moral and provide a basis for that conclusion.

Myriad Reality

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I know. That's why I say that I agree with you morally. I just think it is also immoral to force people to live lifestyles based on a religion a lot of people don't believe in. I feel that if God doesn't force us to believe, then why should we? I feel it's kind of putting ourselves on a higher pedestal.

(Insert your disclaimer here)

@Galaxy Raider

I don't see it as immoral. I can see either absolute law or no law, for there is nothing else to base it on.