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@BishopI don't know much about MMO's? You're saying that in a few days of grinding you can go from level 1 in runescape to level 100 in whatever skill let alone level? I spent literally weeks cutting down trees in that game for my main form of currency and when I quit I was barely level 86 out of 99 in that game. I haven't seen much of WoW either but I sincerely doubt that players can go that fast in that either. I played Runescape for over four years on one account. That character was level 98 when I quit some players were up to level 150-200 in that game. And saying you know more about a nonexistent MMO isn't exactly amazing evidence either. None of us can really say what levels the majority of characters were at in game the only info we know is 'that characters were easy to level'. Which in itself is a vague statement. Some people have more time than others. The no life players can probably get that high within weeks, or months if they try hard enough.

As for the Tomb's quality as the greatest dungeon is arguable as well. It may very well be as the large amount of players were not able to conquer it but we have not seen, or heard of the other dungeons possibly made by the two guilds higher in rank than Nine's Own Goal.

As it is I'm more or less considering dropping out at this point none of you guys are willing to listen to my opinion only throw it back in my face even to the point where I dropped the thing last page and you brought it back up. I'm not telling anyone they can't have higher level 100's I was arguing in the point that there was no level diversity among players and that all of us having that high a level character would lead us all to having overwhelming power as a single group leading to nothing but anti-climatic battles where none of us were presented with anything mildly fun unless the game was heavily stacked in our favor.


Since it came to this point, I feel obliged to tell you mt opinions about what you just said.
TO start with, you're making the wrong comparisons. Runescape is based on skill leveling, your level there is defined by an average calculated from the sum of your combat skills - a system considerably different from YGGDRASIL's class based leveling, that permits simultaneously gaining experience in multiple classes through leveling by combat (something that is impossible in runescape, where you can only level one skill per time) and even more different from wow'swow' s direct leveling, where you get a raw level rather than a level in a skill - and not the combination of all the skill levels, especially since you don't get to have an specific ability leveling system in YGGDRASIL, making it unfit to be used as a standard to start with.
Even if you could - somehow disregarding all the discrepancies and inadequacies - use runescape to justify leveling speed in YGGDRASIL, you're still missing a valid argument: You can, After all, raise your level in runescape in a much faster speed as long as you're set on doing so. In fact, you can pretty much reach the max level in a decent time as long as you focus on leveling just the skills you're going to use And go for either ranged or magic (since Attack and Strength need to be leveled together if you're going for the physical route), requiring less than 2 months if you're truly into grinding. That being said, it's not like you could possibly reach max overall level (including all the skills) in less than a year, even if you grinded like a monster, but that is because runescape has monstrous 2736 levels for you to up - considerably more than YGGDRASIL, especially when considering that you actually have to level skills one by one in runescape.

Anyway, my point is: You're making the wrong comparisons here. Even if both are MMOs, you can't just compare the two of them when they use completely different systems. I do understand your thoughts about It - seriously - but you can't just ignore the fact that in normal MMOs - defined by normal leveling rather than singular skill leveling - leveling up is, in fact, pretty easy. Going from 1 to 100 in games like LOTRO and WOW while taking an optimal route barely takes 100 hours of grinding and YGGDRASIL isnt far from being the same (in fact, momonga even mentions in the novel that losing levels after dying is hardly a bother for expedient players and the loss of an item is away more inconvenient). Even if having lots of level 100 players bother you, it is far from being something that breaks the setting.

P.s. Are you actually expecting difficult battles when the maximum level shown by any new worlder is still under 70? Seriously? If there was going to be a difficult battle it would be between players (nothing hard to happen considering the difference in alignment shown by the characters so far and how alignments change your morality) and I personally like the thought of writing battles between level 100s more than the thought of randomly lowering the level of my character to make him a little bit less overpowered by the world's standard (especially since a level 87 could still bring the new world to submission as easily as a level 100 as far as we know. There's simply no competition.)
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@baraquiel quick tip: Elementalist(Air) may be a fitting cannon class for your character.
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@baraquiel quick tip: Elementalist(Air) may be a fitting cannon class for your character.


Oooh thank you
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Of course things get heated while I'm busy with things. In any event this is still only the interest check people, once I can actually get around to making a good OOC thread that's when things can actually get going. Anyone still interested by that time will have to re-post their characters over there for consideration.

Needless to say there has been a lot more interested people in this then I was ever expecting. If the numbers are even close to what have shown up already I am really going to need a co-gm along with peoples' help in fashioning interesting story lines and NPCs.

I'll be working on this when I can but I am tired and I still have a few things going on that will slow me down. Sit tight and don't murder each other. Please.
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@Spanner@Bishop@vancexentanLook, I am going to make this real easy for you guys. Are you ready? I am going to do what I want, write my character how I want, and the only one who will tell me otherwise will be THE GM. If you are not the GM, then I honestly do not give a damn what you think and how much of an Overlord nerd you are, your opinion will not matter to me. If not getting your way upsets you, then like I say to all those butthurt nerds in video games and on websites like this one, do yourself a favor and leave because you are only bringing stress to yourself. Not a single person in this thread has done a damn thing wrong. If your goal is to be policing everyone and be up everyone's ass for the entire game, then just leave dude. You are only going to hurt yourself and bring pointless drama to a game where people are trying to have fun and write a fun story. You already got people afraid to write their characters how they want because they feel social pressure and fear some sort of peer backlash. Just end the nonsense. It is a waste of time, brain cells, and energy.
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I've already sent a message to Ice I didn't want to cause my controversy than I already have so I've decided to leave the roleplay.
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@Holy Soldier How is this...about you? I just saw someone write something wrong and untrue and I tried to reason with him. I seriously don't care what anyone does with their characters. It was a debate about MMOs in general.

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Honestly, I'm joining this RP more for my character to interact with the world and its NPCs over interacting or PvP-ing with other player characters. That's why I made her level 80 and how she's built more like a supporting character over a frontline fighting one. I'll be happy with staying out of the way of other characters. My character will be more about travelling around helping people in need, with some base building in form of farming and cooking.

Hmm, now that I mentioned it, maybe she should have some NPC guarding said farm.
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Now that I think about it, I realized my character is in college and she doesn't always play every single day since the game started (though she is one of the first who played it). She just doesn't see it having that big of a part in her life: she just plays the game whenever she feels stressed and when she has free time. I saw that it's okay for it to be lvl 100 but I realized she's not one of those heavy duty players. I figured that she achieved max level because of proper time management and in-game hardwork; on the other hand, it's a little hard to do that if she doesn't spend money on buying high-class equipment. I'll make her level a bit lower but not low enough to be weak.

I also realized that since the game became realistic, looks WILL matter in that world. She's gonna be one of those kind people that slowly becomes bitter because of how people treat due to her looks and decides to be a hermit: living high in the mountains, flying over towns to observe, and talking with birds to know what's going on around her. Eventually she'll meet some of you and becomes good again (though it depends on the race and alignment of whom she meets).

(PS. Please continue this rp cause I can tell it's gonna be real fun ^u^)
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@Spanner@Bishop@vancexentanLook, I am going to make this real easy for you guys. Are you ready? I am going to do what I want, write my character how I want, and the only one who will tell me otherwise will be THE GM. If you are not the GM, then I honestly do not give a damn what you think and how much of an Overlord nerd you are, your opinion will not matter to me. If not getting your way upsets you, then like I say to all those butthurt nerds in video games and on websites like this one, do yourself a favor and leave because you are only bringing stress to yourself. Not a single person in this thread has done a damn thing wrong. If your goal is to be policing everyone and be up everyone's ass for the entire game, then just leave dude. You are only going to hurt yourself and bring pointless drama to a game where people are trying to have fun and write a fun story. You already got people afraid to write their characters how they want because they feel social pressure and fear some sort of peer backlash. Just end the nonsense. It is a waste of time, brain cells, and energy.


I'm sorry but.. that's exactly what I'm preaching here. Vance was the one criticizing how people were going for level 100 characters and I just casually explained that this isn't against the game logic and they should do whatever they want, defending what you just asked for, so... Why in hell am I being critized for "making people feel pressured" when I'm defending freedom of choice when making a character? Sounds stupid.

P.s. Are you sure that you've read the conversation correctly? I mean, try to make sense out of it before going around calling people defending the same point of view as you "butthurt nerds". That's not only stupid but also rude and uncalled for.
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I finally finished my CS. I included something concerning Lexus Dominiel's 'creator', but that's just a placeholder in case no one actually wants to be my character's creator.


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This looks cool.

I only have a vague knowledge of the setting but I am very familiar with MMORPGs (mostly F2P but I have a few Subs under my belt) and am intrigued in the idea of Overlord even if I had issues with some of the premise. Last-minute editing an NPC's stats so it'd be obsessed with him and lo and behold it now is felt forced and unnecessary. If there are still open spaces would it be possible to RP a character who logged into their sibling's/friend's account as a sort of "yeah sure you can check it out on the last day, not like you can do any damage"?

It'd be interesting to see vet players respond to what at first seems like a vet acting like a newbie.

Of course its also possible (with a bit of heavy research) to compose an NPC.
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This looks cool.

I only have a vague knowledge of the setting but I am very familiar with MMORPGs (mostly F2P but I have a few Subs under my belt) and am intrigued in the idea of Overlord even if I had issues with some of the premise. Last-minute editing an NPC's stats so it'd be obsessed with him and lo and behold it now is felt forced and unnecessary. If there are still open spaces would it be possible to RP a character who logged into their sibling's/friend's account as a sort of "yeah sure you can check it out on the last day, not like you can do any damage"?

It'd be interesting to see vet players respond to what at first seems like a vet acting like a newbie.

Of course its also possible (with a bit of heavy research) to compose an NPC.


Ahn... I'm sorry to say that this is kind of impossible. YGGDRASIL had a policy of every single player having a single character and being able to use only that single character, so I don't think that you could actually use someone else's account.
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@Spanner Isn't account selling and trading a common thing in every mmo although illegal? I mean, besides putting the password and username to login, how would they know it was you?

VRMMO.... RIGHT!
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Ahn... I'm sorry to say that this is kind of impossible. YGGDRASIL had a policy of every single player having a single character and being able to use only that single character, so I don't think that you could actually use someone else's account.

It was just one idea. I forgot for a moment it was a VRMMO and those tend to have some sort of biometric lock-down on accounts.
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@Spanner Isn't account selling and trading a common thing in every mmo although illegal? I mean, besides putting the password and username to login, how would they know it was you?


I don't know exaclty how they managed it - since it was never specified in the novel - but it's said that it is a single character for player and it was impossible to create a second character, making selling accounts quite the impossible thing.

Also, YGGDRASIL has an exclusive console and stuff like that, so it isn't far fetched to guess that they had a way to recognize the player to make using other's account impossible... Not really sure about how though.
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OOC is now up. Anyone planning on joining needs to post their character over on the main thread for consideration. While we may be overpowered for the world there may be some abilities that might be a bit too much.
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@Hammerman Suddenly remembered something i was supposed to tell you a couple days ago, after seeing your character. In the description of Momonga's world fruits and vegetables as a whole are rare and conadered luxury goods, bought only by rich people, so your character would actually be pretty rich if she had a personal farm.

P.s. For those who don't have much knowledge about the series and are interested in knowing more about the setting of the world from where our characters came from, check overlordmaruyama.wikia.com/wiki/World…
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Wait, are you talking about the real world? She doesn't have a personal farm in the real world.
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Wait, are you talking about the real world? She doesn't have a personal farm in the real world.


Oh. Should've misread that part. I confess i didn't really pay attention to my reading of other characters until now, having too many things to do and almost no time is messing with my mind.
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