Let's B!tch. I feel it's a healthy release for our roleplay annoyances 2.0

[SleepingSilence]

@Lady Amalthea .......

*sighs* >.>

I apologize for talking to you on a public forum in a polite manner. Won't happen again. - A fellow adult.

[Punished GN]

The whole logic of accepting may more people than you need into your RP "because people are gonna drop," backfires when you have at least twenty active players at a time.

[Lalliman]

@SleepingSilence I think what bothers her is that you’ve turned a roleplaying complaint into a politically-charged real-life complaint. I say “politically-charged” because not everyone is going to silently agree with you on the question of whether someone should be allowed to continue living with their parents as an adult. I am inclined to disagree with parts of your statement, but I’m not going to go into that because that’s not what this thread is for. Though, if you want to have a discussion about this with someone of a different viewpoint, you can feel free to PM me.

Edit: I jumped to premature conclusions.

[NuttsnBolts]

Just tweaked the title seeing as it is in the roleplay sub-forum, but I do have to agree. Please keep it related to roleplays as it's not really a meaning of life complaint thread.

We did have a non roleplay bitch thread that was locked 3 months ago in the off topic section and I don't wanna see that sort of thing happen here, mainly cause I use it too, but you're more than welcome to create rant and vent topics in the Spam Forum.

[Sprokkelhout]

post 3000

i just wanted to get 3000

but also i feel a little miffed when characters just kind of...dont interact with each other, like isn't that the point

@Mercenary Lord

Bonus points if someone's character keeps leaving the group. Sure, there's undoubtedly times/situations in which it works, but my God are those rare.

[SleepingSilence]

@Lalliman I sent you a PM, because I highly disagree with what you sent me. But I'll disregard being dramatic.

Just pointing out, that was NOT the reason at all and even than that was something that SHOULD of been said in a PM.

[SleepingSilence]

Just tweaked the title seeing as it is in the roleplay sub-forum, but I do have to agree. Please keep it related to roleplays as it's not really a meaning of life complaint thread.

We did have a non roleplay bitch thread that was locked 3 months ago in the off topic section and I don't wanna see that sort of thing happen here, mainly cause I use it too, but you're more than welcome to create rant and vent topics in the Spam Forum.

@NuttsnBolts

Just noting that I had a RP related complainant, and merely added to a discussion. It wasn't something plenty of others haven't already done before. This has not even remotely been the first time this has happened on here. But, that's fine.

[Dervish]

The whole logic of accepting may more people than you need into your RP "because people are gonna drop," backfires when you have at least twenty active players at a time.

@Surtr

I have a feeling this is referencing one of my posts. To clarify, I tend to mean 2-3 more players than what you want to work with, not "Open the floodgates, bring me your tired, hungry, and poor and see if we can't make two dozen players work" kind of situation. After the game's started and has been along for a few months, I may take on additional people if I think a game can support it.

[Punished GN]

@Dervish ... I haven't been reading this thread for awhile now. lol

[Dervish]

@Surtr That's fine! It just looked identical to something I posted a few pages ago haha

[ML]

This is like half bitching, half me realizing I'm spoiled on RPGuild.

Every other rp website i go to has separate threads for ooc, characters, chatter, Ic...it's a nightmare. I always get turned off by the mania of multiple threads, so RPGuild's way of keeping it all on one page is like the best thing ever

but i wish other sites could pull off the same thing. thats whatcha get for using xenforo

[Punished GN]

@Surtr That's fine! It just looked identical to something I posted a few pages ago haha

@Dervish

I was mostly referring to a promising RP that crashed and burned recently since it had over twenty people playing at a time, and was an absolute mess (I can handle that many people if, you know, they aren't rapid fire posting back and forth). The GM totally ignored my suggestion for cutting the RP off, and... it just died like a week later. lol

[The Mage]

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I was mostly referring to a promising RP that crashed and burned recently since it had over twenty people playing at a time, and was an absolute mess (I can handle that many people if, you know, they aren't rapid fire posting back and forth). The GM totally ignored my suggestion for cutting the RP off, and... it just died like a week later. lol

@Surtr

THIS is the reason why I am solely found in the 1x1 threads. It's much more easier to do 1x1's and the few times I have ventured out to try roleplays with multiple roleplayers they generally die quickly. That's why I'm always afraid to even try a multi-RPer thread because honestly what's the point if it's going to die?

[Punished GN]

what's the point if it's going to die?

@The Mage

[Insert generic "if you do it right, it can long awhile!" message]

[Dion]

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Bonus points if someone's character keeps leaving the group. Sure, there's undoubtedly times/situations in which it works, but my God are those rare.

@Piddle

"My character is a loner so he's going to go out of his way every. single. time. to avoid talking to people - oh did I also tell you guys he's a closet-nice-guy that actually really really wants to befriend people but he's just so shy, effectively giving me a justification for making no meaningful impact on the story by constantly removing him from any conversation that isn't about a) my character b) his depression c) his loneliness d) his desire to make friends or e) all of the above. It also gives me a great great reason to avoid writing and coming up with new ideas! After all he's so shy, people have to come to my character with their ideas so I don't have to do any creative thinking!"

Yeah, kudo's to the people who can write shy or anti-social characters with flair, keeping it interesting to read even if he's not actively partaking. But god damn. Shy, friendless, lonely, depressed characters in group RP's are the equivalent of sub characters in the 1x1 section - they're wet paper husks of a character that have no personality and a single lazy gimmick.

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THIS is the reason why I am solely found in the 1x1 threads. It's much more easier to do 1x1's and the few times I have ventured out to try roleplays with multiple roleplayers they generally die quickly. That's why I'm always afraid to even try a multi-RPer thread because honestly what's the point if it's going to die?

@The Mage

Find friends that you enjoy RPing with, introduce them to each other, and if they get along, bam, you have a dedicated group of roleplayers. That's how I've started doing it and that's what I typically have best results with. But I have friends that are whimsical, so it doesn't work as well. When you have friends that are still very into roleplaying, then it'll work. And then you can use randoms to fill in the blank spots.

[Sprokkelhout]

"My character is a loner so he's going to go out of his way every. single. time. to avoid talking to people - oh did I also tell you guys he's a closet-nice-guy that actually really really wants to befriend people but he's just so shy, effectively giving me a justification for making no meaningful impact on the story by constantly removing him from any conversation that isn't about a) my character b) his depression c) his loneliness d) his desire to make friends or e) all of the above. It also gives me a great great reason to avoid writing and coming up with new ideas! After all he's so shy, people have to come to my character with their ideas so I don't have to do any creative thinking!"

Yeah, kudo's to the people who can write shy or anti-social characters with flair, keeping it interesting to read even if he's not actively partaking. But god damn. Shy, friendless, lonely, depressed characters in group RP's are the equivalent of sub characters in the 1x1 section - they're wet paper husks of a character that have no personality and a single lazy gimmick.

@Odin

Where have you been all my life.

And yeah, the sub-thing in 1x1 is also painfully prevalent. It's quite often an excuse for the writer being really passive. Not always, but it has become something I'm a little bit cautious about.

[Dion]

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Where have you been all my life.

@Piddle

In Den Haag ;)

And yeah, the sub-thing in 1x1 is also painfully prevalent. It's quite often an excuse for the writer being really passive. Not always, but it has become something I'm a little bit cautious about.

@Piddle

I found it is either that, an excuse to be really passive, or it's just an excuse for the character to be a cock-sleeve, excuse my language, for the other character. There's no substance.

Perhaps worth noting that I have had good experiences with people that wrote sub characters (or, rather, I have had one) but that was an expert writer. Shy, depressed characters are the same. It needs to be done well, or not at all.

[Sprokkelhout]

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In Den Haag ;)

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I found it is either that, an excuse to be really passive, or it's just an excuse for the character to be a cock-sleeve, excuse my language, for the other character. There's no substance.

Perhaps worth noting that I have had good experiences with people that wrote sub characters (or, rather, I have had one) but that was an expert writer. Shy, depressed characters are the same. It needs to be done well, or not at all.

@Odin

Wait, for real!? Assen represent! And also Amerfoort, but that's where my apartment is, doesn't quite feel as homey as Assen :')

Cocksleeve made me giggle. But it's quite often very true.

And same, a friend of mine can write the shy, easily intimidated sort in an amazing way (one of her characters actually gets into a lot of odd situations, simply because he's very bad at saying no and walking away).

[ML]

I also kinda wonder why people would actively choose to play a character so shy that they can't even be around other people, unless the goal of the rp is to get them less shy)

The other reason I can think of is just to put their own personality into the character, I just woke up so my brains a bit muddled

[Dion]

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Wait, for real!? Assen represent! And also Amerfoort, but that's where my apartment is, doesn't quite feel as homey as Assen :')

Cocksleeve made me giggle. But it's quite often very true.

And same, a friend of mine can write the shy, easily intimidated sort in an amazing way (one of her characters actually gets into a lot of odd situations, simply because he's very bad at saying no and walking away).

@Piddle

I mean, I'm not a real Hagenees, since I'm from Voorburg originally and currently living in Leidschenveen. But I live like 200 meters from the Kyocera stadion, so I guess even the most Haags thing isn't even in the Hague anymore. But yeah, for real. I already noticed you were Dutch, the name on your art gives it away.

I think something to keep in mind when writing shy characters is that... I wanna say 'nobody cares about them' which sounds harsh and is not entirely true in the sense that people do care about them, it's just that shy people tend not to get noticed. Playing an invisible character then by extent can be interesting in the 'fly on the wall' formula by having them observe crazy things, and nobody notices them because they blend in.

But just having your character scream 'I AM SO ALONE PLEASE TALK TO ME BUT OH I AM SO SHY SO I CAN'T REALLY SAY MUCH BACK' to avoid putting in that effort creatively is not even bad writing, it's just bad character.

I also kinda wonder why people would actively choose to play a character so shy that they can't even be around other people, unless the goal of the rp is to get them less shy)

The other reason I can think of is just to put their own personality into the character, I just woke up so my brains a bit muddled

@Mercenary Lord

Because it's a self insert, because it's the easiest thing to write, because they are lazy, or because they want their character to be the center of attention (which is somewhat paradoxical because you're writing a shy character that doesn't like attention).

It's funny, because the people that always complain about nobody interacting with them in a roleplay tend to also be the same people who have characters that shy away from any form of interaction unless it's about their character.

Similarly, I've noticed these are the same people who forcibly begin shipping their character with other characters and going 'hehe would be cool if they dated amirite' about every potential relationship candidate. I feel like these characters are typically just lazy self-inserts and an attempt at playing out boring fantasies we have already heard of 200x.

It's really just 'the shy nerdy guy gets the girl' innit.