Ruby

Ask an Admin, v2.

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None of my posts are done out of bad faith, but because I've been on this site since i was 15 years old (im 21 now) and never have i been in trouble until now, because of unfair decisions made by moderators.

As is, I'm going to stop posting in this thread because I haven't gotten any substantial responses from you and I doubt any changes will ever be made. I'd be happy to have a conversation with Mahz himself if he could ever make time for a ember of the website he created.

@somnolence

My head is spinning. Your last ban sounds like site staff got you in the craze of whatever day it was the status bar was hijacked. That sucks for both parties but definitely for the ban. If you want PM me and I'll be happy to make sure that's what happened and no record of it was made. (Do it can't be weighed against you in the future.)

Ask an Admin, v2.

Maybe this is already being done and maybe my understanding of the situation is lacking. However, my suggestion would be to quickly review and likely roll back any controversial bans that lack merit, execute a policy of a written warning detailing the offense and consequences to a person violating TOS. If violations continue, issue a temporary ban for admins to review. I think it's only reasonable that a permanent ban have 2 admins sign off in agreement.

Also, in an effort to cease toxicity, I would also delete this thread. This is just giving negativity a platform. If anyone wants to Ask An Admin, they can contact the admins privately.

My two cents. Good luck!

@RedVII

I will say any further bad faith posts will be removed. So if you wanna throw hate do so in PMs.

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Yet, I reached out about it and after I sent the PM on my alt, I was banned. I had asked for the reason, and I was given a short and curt response. So, I reached out and it wasn't cleared up at all, contrary to what you say ...

@somnolence

Site mods were banning alts and it wasn't until that ended that we were able to look back and make corrections.

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Seems like the operating model could use some fine-tuning, both from a technical viewpoint and a procedural one.

Is the only one who can push updates to the site, Mahz?

@BurningDaisies

As far as I know.

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If people want to troll, they're going to find a way to do so; we've seen that from RPGO to the status bar.

Beyond that, posting in good faith is a requirement of this thread, so troll responses, even if there's a point behind them, are removed.

@LegendBegins

^

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Going by the vast majority of posts by the creator of the thread here I can't see how being constructive or being a question/answer is a prerequisite of staying up, given the vast majority are rude, one-liner deflections rather than actual answers. I also don't really see how it was neither a question nor constructive, but alright, I'll humour you now that the question is "properly asked". Where are the proofs?

@Andreyich

Nope that was anecdotal off the top of my head. Replace it with any other kind of thread if you want. Or Discord.

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Shouldn't you give a timeframe, then, for the user to respond before banning them? That seems to be the only fair response.

@somnolence

While they ignore us and continue breaking site rules?

Let's admit there absolutely is no perfect solution here because there is no automated system for it.

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When I was banned, I hadn't received any PM. I went to an alternate account to message Ruby about it, and I was immediately banned afterward. It was only an hour or so later that I was told my ban would be lifted in 24 hrs. I was given no warning nor a timeframe in which I could view the PM and respond. Mind you, this was because I was joking around about a ban.

@somnolence

That was during the status bar spam. That's a shitty situation when some people got dumb bans or weren't told or worse. We're a small group of volunteers and when things get like that the site mods will ban first and try to work it out after.

It's far from ideal and usually cleared up by reaching out to us.

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[quote=@Andreyich]
See, I made a post asking for proofs that the people airing grievances in the status bar would go to RP threads. No proofs were provided, and instead the post was removed. Quod Erat Demonstrandum :^)

For those who havent been banned

What notification gets given? Do they get the post/status/action they were banned for or a rule that is cited or linked to?

Can other admins view these details if they get asked?

I see a lot of people complaining about friends bans etc but its hard to asses when I don't know if they should have been shown exactly what they have been banned for. If someone is saying they dont know what they got banned for and it was actually right there in an email or something that changes how I'd view that complaint.

Such a procedure/feature may save you the why was i banned PM (or at least some).

@Aqua Regis

Nothing automated. You get banned and it removes your ability to post. You can login and read our PMs to you but you need an alt to respond to us or object the ban.

We've been begging for upgrades to the system for years.

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[quote=@Andreyich]
See, I made a post asking for proofs that the people airing grievances in the status bar would go to RP threads. No proofs were provided, and instead the post was removed. Quod Erat Demonstrandum :^)

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Have anyone considered setting up a patreon, so people who still love this site have way to donate and keep it running?
#ShutupAndTakeMyMoney

@BurningDaisies

Mahz is anti donations. And he still owns the site.

Good idea though.

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...Are you going to explain some of them? Give us an idea? Surely, we at least deserve to know something.

@Mao Mao

Some offered to take on the running costs and hire programmers to update some of it while leaving the Guild the Guild.

There are other programmers on site who could do it and adding a bottom screen ad might just about cover most costs iirc.