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I'm normally not one for seeking advice for a problem as I tend to tackle it alone and head-on.

I feel like what i am asking for in a roleplay mostly seems either out of reach or not very appealing to people (out of date) and at times I've honestly felt like leaving and not coming back because at times i feel like i am not being understood with what i want.
On the one hand I feel so frustrated that it happened but on the other hand I feel mostly frustration and at times depressed (if that makes sense).
At times whatever RP's i have i am also waiting for a reply or if they forgot about it which has me vexed also. It's like whatever road i have I'm bound to hit a dead end sooner or later and it doesn't help me feel positive much in the slightest because i feel like it's another thing to chalk up that is against me.
What is your advice and thoughts on this because i do not know which way to go right now on this fork in the road even though my misses are more than my hits..
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I've already commented that the list of pairings displayed in your interest check give the impression of you just wanting to do anime canon x OC, which can appear as a limited selection to an outsider. It's not about the number of canon x OC pairings, it's the fact that they are all canon x OC pairings at a quick glance. In addition, it's for a somewhat limited selection of canons. The amount of people that may express interest could decrease because who you happen to have passing by may be skimming titles and pairings to get an idea of what the other person wants.

Approaching such criticism by saying people have no imagination and live in the mysterious "Negative Zone" does nothing to aid your cause. It makes you appear temperamental, and has the reverse effect of making you look not particularly imaginative or open to critique - something I would think is critical, that is, being open to critique and also critiquing yourself. I think the discord is a cesspool anyways, so I don't really take conversations and comments there seriously.

Roleplaying in general is afflicted with apathy. It's just how humans work. They think they want something, then they do it, and then they go "...meh" after a while. Sometimes they differ. But in the grand scheme of roleplaying, that's more the exception than the rule.

If you're not feeling understood with what you want, communicate that. Open a side PM or use a thread's OOC section. Constant OOC conversation is helpful to keeping a roleplay alive. When the OOC conversation dies out, you know something is off. Communication is the primary way to drive things, and if you don't have some sort of line of communication going besides posting in IC and simmering because the other person is doing something you don't like, then that RP is likely doomed to fail. The only way someone's going to improve is if you tell them your thoughts in the first place and make sure the picture is clear.

When waiting for a reply, communication is also important - poke people if they wait beyond the normal time of waiting. Sometimes they forget, or it's writer's block, or they lost you in a sea of their real life things... either way, the first step is to lightly harass them and see what the circumstances are, and therefore have a fairly complete image of what's going on so you don't get depressed about a short wait that can be caused by a myriad of reasons.

I feel like you're going to ignore all this and throw away 7 minutes, but meh, what's 7 minutes >.<

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But the way you commented you harshly criticized what i wanted anyway so i took it in a negative way since i normally don't take criticism well anyway. To me in my interest checks it is NOT limited to me and i still believe that there are some still that lack imagination or a open viewpoint when it comes to things like a interest check.
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I've already commented that the list of pairings displayed in your interest check give the impression of you just wanting to do anime canon x OC, which can appear as a limited selection to an outsider. It's not about the number of canon x OC pairings, it's the fact that they are all canon x OC pairings at a quick glance. In addition, it's for a somewhat limited selection of canons. The amount of people that may express interest could decrease because who you happen to have passing by may be skimming titles and pairings to get an idea of what the other person wants.


To reiterate Arena's point, I have stumbled onto your 1x1 check in the past because of my own interest in the title. Anime/Manga is one of my hobbies, so I'm often up for RPs based around anime and/or manga. Despite this, my interest wanes when I see just canon x OC, which I find a turn off in terms of looking for 1x1 partners. The idea of canon x OC doesn't sit well with me, seeing as much of the character is already established e.g. personality, history. Additionally, both of your 1x1 checks (1, 2) are limited. At max you have six different canons, so there isn't many settings for me to work with.

I'm not saying you're a bad roleplayer or that your interest check is terrible by any means, but there isn't anything that really grabs my eye and interest.
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@Poi Then like Snow i think you two do not understand where i am coming from in terms of creativity or the ability to take a character and start from a set point then. I would like nothing more than to have a roleplay around anime or manga and i do not believe my are limited and i think it's a limit on the creativity angle for both of you and i think both of you believe what i want is terrible.
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@Poi Then like Snow i think you two do not understand where i am coming from in terms of creativity or the ability to take a character and start from a set point then.

You can be creative with or without canon characters. Many people have created interesting OCs--just look at the character sheet section on RPG. Nonetheless, some people, like myself, don't find an interest in playing as canon characters, and that is all you're offering.

i think it's a limit on the creativity angle for both of you and i think both of you believe what i want is terrible.


Neither of us said your ideas were terrible. You simply asked why your ideas weren't appealing to others, and both of us gave our own opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I'm sure there are some on RPG that think opposite to both @ArenaSnow's and I's beliefs.
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@Poi Then like Snow i think you two do not understand where i am coming from in terms of creativity or the ability to take a character and start from a set point then. I would like nothing more than to have a roleplay around anime or manga and i do not believe my are limited and i think it's a limit on the creativity angle for both of you and i think both of you believe what i want is terrible.


This post ^ explains part of your problem. If you refuse to accept it or not is not really my concern, but for a single and final time, I'll explain it to you.

In terms of creativity, what you've displayed is the inability to see why people may look at a list of "canon x oc" pairings (that have no plot suggestions included and come from a total of six canons) and determine there is a limited scope that because your only pairings are canon x oc with no suggestions as to what would go on in the roleplay. The only generas are basically anime, and the only pairings are canon x oc. Therefore, your interest check can be shortened to "I want anime canon x oc pairings". That's fine, but you're missing many of the other things that people would also look for. What you're looking for is a specific form of roleplaying (based on the check, which, to be honest, is rather short in the details) for a specific set of canons. That puts you in front of a limited audience, and so your exposure is reduced.

Based on your responses and admission, you don't take well to critical replies. That in and of itself shows you're inflexible. You are not flexible because instead of reading our points and asking why we made them, you immediately go on the defensive and create nonsensical "Negative Zone" memes determine others lack an imagination when your interest check is what seems to be lacking in content. No plots, just a list of canon x oc anime pairings. If that's all that goes on in your literary world, fine. That's not how everyone else works. If your immediate reaction to honest replies why people may not contact you as much as they would other checks is an example of how you treat people in general, then that gives an OOC reason why some people might just pass over and not want to deal with it.

I would like nothing more than to have a roleplay around anime or manga


Nothing more. Ergo, you don't want more, and so you are limiting yourself to the canons of a few select anime or manga verses. Again, if that's your literary world, fine, but there's much more content that exists than that.

But the way you commented you harshly criticized what i wanted anyway


I told you, in less words than my first post in this thread, that your offerings were fairly limited and revolved around canon x oc. I treat "blunt/honest" different from "harsh". Harsh connotates that I have some sort of investment or am acting to knock you off some sort of pedestal. At the time, I didn't really care. You complained, and I offered a reason why. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it harsh. If someone else comes in and said "yeah, that was pretty harsh" I'll give it another look and reconsider.

i normally don't take criticism well anyway.


This is part of the problem. Criticism is key to actually learning anything. An echo chamber doesn't help you improve, and it doesn't solve your problem.

To me in my interest checks it is NOT limited to me and i still believe that there are some still that lack imagination or a open viewpoint when it comes to things like a interest check.


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That's great, but, you're not appealing to you. Interest checks, and roleplaying in general, depends on you to look beyond your sphere of thoughts and interests to what other people might also like. You're entitled to your opinions, but the fact remains - if you're having such a problem finding people, perhaps there's something wrong with either the presentation of the opinions or with the way those opinions are matching with other people. Are you suggesting that all the people who pass by your roleplays lack the imagination to pull off a canon x oc roleplay?

Perhaps they just want something of a different flavor?... again, you don't put much in your interest check, so on that basis alone you don't make it clear as to what you want to go on in the roleplays. People are filling the blanks in themselves, and apparently what is going into the blanks isn't very good, or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

And as for an open viewpoint, I think I made enough foundation in this post so far to say that you need to open your own viewpoint a little more.

i think both of you believe what i want is terrible.


I feel like you're going to ignore all this(...)


Apparently I was proven right, because not once did I say what you had was terrible. I do freely say that what you offer is somewhat limited and that you are unable to recognize that.

it's a limit on the creativity angle


I'm not the one who made a thread that included six similar anime/manga canons featuring exclusively canon x oc pairings without even one plot suggestion.
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@ArenaSnow Well at least i'm not a critic that dissects everything and turns it into negativity. I'm not inflexible but i just simply want these ones despite what you think is limited to which it is not. And the way you worded yourself it can be described as rather 'harsh' and i believe you came off as that.
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@ArenaSnow Well at least i'm not a critic that dissects everything and turns it into negativity. I'm not inflexible but i just simply want these ones despite what you think is limited to which it is not. And the way you worded yourself it can be described as rather 'harsh' and i believe you came off as that.


That's your problem, then.

The Order of Negativity rests its case.
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a critic that dissects everything and turns it into negativity


You ask for advice, but then cast off what anyone else says. You don't have to take our advice, but if us looking at data that you presented and analyzing it to formulate an opinion is us being negative, I honestly am not sure what to say to help you.

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I'm normally not one for seeking advice for a problem as I tend to tackle it alone and head-on.

I feel like what i am asking for in a roleplay mostly seems either out of reach or not very appealing to people (out of date) and at times I've honestly felt like leaving and not coming back because at times i feel like i am not being understood with what i want.
On the one hand I feel so frustrated that it happened but on the other hand I feel mostly frustration and at times depressed (if that makes sense).
At times whatever RP's i have i am also waiting for a reply or if they forgot about it which has me vexed also. It's like whatever road i have I'm bound to hit a dead end sooner or later and it doesn't help me feel positive much in the slightest because i feel like it's another thing to chalk up that is against me.


That sucks. We all deal with it. 50% of having a succesful RP is getting lucky and having a nice partner that is on the same level of writing give or take a few 'skill levels'. The other 50% is timing and getting lucky that the right people see your thread.

What is your advice and thoughts on this because i do not know which way to go right now on this fork in the road even though my misses are more than my hits..


Get over it. That's my advise. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just being nice when fact of the matter is we all have hits and misses in our roleplaying career and almost all of us have more misses than hits.

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If you think you need a break, take a break. If you don't find joy in a hobby that once brought you it, then you need to rest and take some time away from that hobby so you can recharge your "creative energy". I find that when I'm in this state, if I preoccupy myself with other things like videogames, it makes writing all the more enjoyable once I pick it up again.

However, seeking answers then refusing perfectly valid (and constructive) criticism is incredibly stubborn and helps nobody.
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In short? An interest check needs to have more than “character x character”. It doesn’t matter if you want to re-interpret canon events/characters or create original extensions of those worlds (or even a little of both) but you need to give more information to get an influx of interested parties. As a role-player, I looked at the listed interest check and felt it really has nothing for me. No loose ideas beyond pairings. Pairings are not helpful towards brainstorming. There’s not enough information, full stop. If you want people to RP with you, you need to give sufficient information.
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@Darquesse Well you may be right on the break though. I normally play video games myself to help with this and maybe i will read fanfiction again and maybe try my hand at it again. Well the answers i got were what i felt like were rather harsh in terms of what i wanted pointing out it was limited when in my view it is not limited at all. I just feel like the answers were a bit harsh despite honest intent i guess but who knows maybe it is time to take a break even though i got rp's on here that are either going, waiting or never took off in these three things that has happened to me on a roleplay front on here.
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"I want you to pay attention to all of the detailed nuances and bits of history put into a character I've created, who will ostensibly be the main character. You can play whoever, I don't really care, any anime character will do."


This is what I interpret when I see "CanonxOC" 1x1 ideas. Most everyone wants to play as an OC. We want to be able to explore our own ideas with you rather than for you. We want to create a story all our (as in, the two of us) own where we can both explore the unexplored in an established world. It takes discipline (not creativity) to play in these kinds of settings. The Canon player has to sacrifice their own creativity to adhere to the strict idea of the decided canon character. CanonxOC writing, in my opinion, should stick to the realm of fandoms. The entire idea of RPing is to play characters you create, not already-created characters.

If you're not willing to play a canon character, yourself, you shouldn't expect others to do so. If the only option is "the one coming to me is the one that's going to play canon" without considering that the other probably wants to play their own OC, then that's telling the other RPer that their own sense of creativity and world-building isn't welcome or encouraged. I've only been able to handle looking through the 1x1 section for a maximum of 20 minutes, quickly becoming discouraged with the requirements for smut, specific pairings, and no solid story plots or even ideas.

I'd also like to share that, for me, a 1x1 is where both RPers are essentially Co-GMs, in that they play equal parts in building the story and characters (both NPC and PC). They both have the responsibility of pushing the plot forward for the other. I've seen so many complaints about people from 1x1's where they felt their partner was always piggy-backing their own posts and never trying to contribute to the world/plot themselves.
These are simply points to consider. I haven't looked over your interest check so I have no idea what is in them or what they look like or what you actually expect of them. These are merely my opinions and observations.

I'd also like to point out that the only negativity in this thread is merely perceived as there is no real negativity going on in this thread other than "give me advice" which is always going to be "I point out the flaws I see." Nothing in this thread has been "harsh," "mean," or "unreasonable." I won't say what one perceives to be "wrong," but assuming tone over text is neither constructive nor beneficial to those involved. When I become particularly jaded and begin to martyr myself, I usually take a step back and revisit the topic after some self-reflection before getting defensive and putting myself in an even greater compromised emotional state.

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