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This thread is quite simple in its premise. The Moderators/General Managers are looking for feedback to Expanding Horizons, and what and all you lot are thinking so far. As well as any suggestions to improve the roleplay.

Any and all things are welcome, and one of us will be around to answer questions, concerns, and criticisms.
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I wish the fed's power balance between itself and other groups were made a bit more clear. Or if the Fed is just going to be its own thing so don't worry about them.
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I can understand the reasoning behind requiring approval from two mods per character. However, in practice, it seems that some of the mods are busy people. Through no fault of theirs, it can take a very long time to get characters approved. Perhaps a compromise is in order? Maybe you only need one mods approval, but other mods can step in and say "Yo hold up you need to change this." Or maybe just make it so only one mod is necessary.
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I can understand the reasoning behind requiring approval from two mods per character. However, in practice, it seems that some of the mods are busy people. Through no fault of theirs, it can take a very long time to get characters approved. Perhaps a compromise is in order? Maybe you only need one mods approval, but other mods can step in and say "Yo hold up you need to change this." Or maybe just make it so only one mod is necessary.


It has already been changed such that if the character is well-within reason only a single mod needs to approve the character.
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I wish the fed's power balance between itself and other groups were made a bit more clear. Or if the Fed is just going to be its own thing so don't worry about them.


Our power is absolute. Or something.

I'm going to get you a for sure answer on this, but I think the Fed only controls Federation space, Ece, Friday, and Val included. But there may be other places that aren't under their umbrella.
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@Rilla Hopefully this is the right place...I was going to post it in Harbringer's FAQ thread since it was a living document, but they've since stepped down from the position, so I wasn't sure if it was still being updated.

Anyway, I see a couple of 'mission' recruitment threads, like this one. I'm assuming that a mission consists of a task that must be carried out by approved characters, facing opposition controlled by the person GMing the mission.

My question is: Does a thread GM need to be staff, or can we, as players, create and run missions for other players?

And by extension (if yes), what limits are there in terms of the scope and staff approval of the opposition inherent to the mission?

I had a conversation with Circ regarding this in the Discord chat, and I wasn't super clear on what the response was, but the way I ended up reading it was, "If an NPC has any capability/intention of affecting a PC, in any context, they must be submitted and approved as a PC themselves". I'm honestly not sure if that was a correct reading of the response, and the conversation was pretty short, but that was something that I wanted to get more detailed clarification on.

As a smaller example, in a thread going on now, we have the Love Bomb Pirates fighting a group of faceless armed mercenaries run by the thread GM. But in searching through the FAQ and similar resources around, I couldn't find guidelines on whether or not we were actually allowed to run mooks as opposition for ourselves, as said mercenaries are not employed by any currently approved PC. The existence of the thread (retroactively) contradicts my reading of Circ's ruling on the matter, which caused some confusion amongst ourselves when I brought it up in our group chat.

I like making stories for people, and running missions and creating subplots is definitely something that I would do if I understood the bounds in which I was able to do so, so I really just wanted to get clarification on that. Are 'missions' of this nature solely a staff-run thing, or do we have the capability to make similar missions ourselves? Can these missions involve hostile NPCs or hostile phenomenon (e.g. negative space wedgies)? What approval process is involved? Etc.

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More GM quests with GM rewards!


Even if it's hosted by someone else (ie, SIGINT ^^)
And just overlooked and authorised by a GM
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My question is: Does a thread GM need to be staff, or can we, as players, create and run missions for other players?


Yes you can. No you don't need approval from staff unless you intend for their to be rewards that are beyond the scope of what is already allowed.

I had a conversation with Circ regarding this in the Discord chat, and I wasn't super clear on what the response was, but the way I ended up reading it was, "If an NPC has any capability/intention of affecting a PC, in any context, they must be submitted and approved as a PC themselves".


I think your reading on that was a little too strict. Note that I'm playing an NPC that is setting up the relationship between the Ragnarov Fleet and the UFP without creating a character profile. The NPC is influencing the relationship of the characters, but I don't need a profile because it doesn't have any special abilities or even a name or enough stuff around it to merit being approved.

Hopefully that answers your questions.
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Overall, I'm consumed by a feeling of disappointment. Quite frankly, this is only a persistent world by title and not at all what should have been delivered. What we've got here is merely anything anyone wants to be involved with the potential to directly influence each other if they so choose but could easily be ignored. This provides the illusion of a collaborative effort. If only anyone had been aware of an older forum known as Desert Realm or even bothered to consider the worlds of Kyrnn or Faerun. These are persistent worlds. One could make the argument that this is more along the lines of a persistent "solar system" or "galaxy," which is all find and dandy but extremely disappointing for something like myself who would actually enjoy seeing the true strength of a persistent world which is admin/mod driven story arcs and events of major NPCs that forcefully influence all those in the area as the admin/mod interject appropriately. It's as if someone was afraid another might feel left out or slighted if the setting didn't agree with them. I believe it was in one of the introductory/instructional posts where it was suggested that you could have a medieval version of Tatoinne with a "100" style Space Station floating above without anyone's knowledge, and the god damn silver surfer on his way from a distant planet. It's great to include everyone in theory but rarely does it work by design. It might as well just be any number of individual role plays in any of the other sections. Without moderator driver story arcs that influence the entirety of the "persistent world" there is little reason to even use the persistent world concept. Here it seems we have an attempt to sooth the masses by label rather than real creation.
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^Maybe a little harsh, but in my experience, big GM-run events bring in a lot of new players. I'm enjoying it a lot, though.
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Hey moderators, just a suggestion: could you allow Tier 5 (and higher) characters to be used by non-mods?

I know that you might be afraid that people might create hilariously overpowered characters and unleash their unbridled fury upon the unsuspecting masses, but that would be terribly immature (let's just assume that RPGuild is a rather civilized place to conduct RPs compared to, let's say, Facebook). In a persistent world, you either create realms and empires or play in them. Of course, a realm needs its own deities and powerful figureheads. Besides, you guys could make it the responsibility of certain admin-headed groups to enforce law within the persistent world, so that we won't all go bonkers in case somebody's Mary Sue goes crazy and decides to go on a planet-destroying rampage.

It would also be terrible if somebody's tier-6 physical god kills another person's tier-3 mage without any context at all, but that would be a dick move. I hope no idiot would try to do that.
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I like the idea as a solution, but my only concern with that is that you can't really choose who you RP with - you're not allowed to keep people out of threads. We can say, "I hope no one would do that", but there's no actual recourse for if it does happen aside from call in mods, which runs the risk of turning people away from the whole thing for fear of being policed.

To rectify that, I'd recommend that the approval process for such a character also include the intended use of the character - as in, it is assumed that such a physical god has very important god business to be attending to, and will mostly be involved in a certain sphere of things, or a certain area.

This is really more my personal beliefs than anything, but I think that powerful characters can and should exist for the benefit of weaker characters, because overcoming an obstacle that's inferior to yourself doesn't do much for character growth. If a hypothetical Tier-5 character's Intended Use followed that philosophy, I think everyone would feel a bit safer.


tl;dr I'd prefer if people didn't make Tier-5s because they can and/or to screw around, but to create meaningful change for the benefit of everyone.


I do think that the idea could breathe some life into the world. Tier-4 is high enough to create conflict that characters can interact with, but it's not really high enough to create a situation or a circumstance that characters can interact in.

And it feels like that's what's missing to me. We have many areas and many threads, but no circumstance, no happening, because we're all waiting on someone with more power to put it there. That's my perception, at least.
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