[OOC] CLOSED - Ultimate One Universe: Season One

[Lord Wraith]

The more Fantastic Four I can get the better.

@Inkarnate

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No.

@Inkarnate

No.

@Inkarnate

I'm starting to think you're a liar.

[Master Bruce]

Also, three movies? I'll have you all know that as far as I'm concerned, there are four movies.

[Simple Unicycle]

I leave you all alone for an hour and look what happens to this thread, jfc.

[ErsatzEmperor]

Also, three movies? I'll have you all know that as far as I'm concerned, there are four movies.

@Master Bruce

Weirdly, the best looking Thing in any of them.

[Master Bruce]

In comic news that nobody wanted, Batman #50 is a big stinking pile of bullshit and I now feel similarly to @Bounce's hatred of Grant Morrison with Tom King.

Fuck that dude.

[Retired]

Also, three movies? I'll have you all know that as far as I'm concerned, there are four movies.

@Master Bruce

I was going to include that, but 1) good luck finding a way to watch it, and 2) it is clearly the superior Marvel movie, and thus immune to my mocking.

[AndyC]

In comic news that nobody wanted, Batman #50 is a big stinking pile of bullshit and I now feel similarly to @Bounce's hatred of Grant Morrison with Tom King.

Fuck that dude.

@Master Bruce

Hey, at least Selina's still on the same goddamn planet as Bruce. Lois and Jon are off having space-adventures with not-dead-anymore Jor-El so Bendis doesn't have to write family scenes.

[Sep]

@Master Bruce What happend? Are you okay?

I personally am on edge about Flash #50 with what happened in #49. It could go one way or the other for me.

[Retired]

_{Still hasn't read any DC comics since the start of New 52}

[AndyC]

_{Still hasn't read any DC comics since the start of New 52}

@Retired

The Rebirth lineup was really great....for like a minute.

[ErsatzEmperor]

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Hey, at least Selina's still on the same goddamn planet as Bruce. Lois and Jon are off having space-adventures with not-dead-anymore Jor-El so Bendis doesn't have to write family scenes.

@AndyC

I haven't read any of his Superman run yet, but that doesn't sound like something Bendis would do. Guy was the king of getting any superhero business concluded in a couple of pages so he could focus on workplace/family drama.

[Sep]

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The Rebirth lineup was really great....for like a minute.

@AndyC

I'm okay, but they seem to be intent on having the Flashes keep breaking things and making really bad decisions.

[Master Bruce]

I was going to include that, but 1) good luck finding a way to watch it, and 2) it is clearly the superior Marvel movie, and thus immune to my mocking.

@Retired

I've found it before on Youtube. Don't know if it's been removed, but it's shown up periodically.

Hey, at least Selina's still on the same goddamn planet as Bruce. Lois and Jon are off having space-adventures with not-dead-anymore Jor-El so Bendis doesn't have to write family scenes.

@AndyC

She might aswell not be, given the amount of backtracking King managed to pull out of his ass in the span of one issue. She's not even the same character she's been for the last thirty-plus issues anymore, and it's for the dumbest "He has to be in pain all of the time to be Batman"-type of edgelordy bullshit reason imaginable.

@Master Bruce What happend? Are you okay?

@Sep

Eh, I'll live. Just venting my nerd rage at a great storyline that was essentially rendered a giant marketing con for like an entire year.

SPOILERS

Basically, after building it up for a long time and providing some great forward momentum in their relationship, Batman and Catwoman's marriage is called off because Selina gets cold feet due to what amounts to a 12-year-old's understanding of what makes Bruce tick: She thinks that if she marries him, he'll be too happy to be Batman anymore and leaves Gotham.

Despite the fact that Bruce has had several surrogate sons, a biological son, several surrogate daughters, and a ton of friends and allies that have enriched his life over the years and never hindered his ability to fight crime. The entire point of Batman is that he works through his pain and leaves it behind for the sake of others, otherwise he'd never leave the cave.

Selina being his wife wouldn't have changed a damn thing about that, not to mention would've fixed alot of dumb repetition with the 'Bruce Wayne has a doomed relationship with some random woman' trope, but King's an idiot who thinks he's proving a point.

[Morden Man]

Brian Michael Bendis disregard preexisting continuity because it doesn't correspond with the story he wants to tell? Never!

[ErsatzEmperor]

SPOILERS

Basically, after building it up for a long time and providing some great forward momentum in their relationship, Batman and Catwoman's marriage is called off because Selina gets cold feet due to what amounts to a 12-year-old's understanding of what makes Bruce tick: She thinks that if she marries him, he'll be too happy to be Batman anymore and leaves Gotham. Despite the fact that Bruce has had several surrogate sons, a biological son, several surrogate daughters, and a ton of friends and allies that have enriched his life over the years and never hindered his ability to fight crime. The entire point of Batman is that he works through his pain and leaves it behind for the sake of others, otherwise he'd never leave the cave. Selina being his wife wouldn't have changed a damn thing about that, but King's an idiot who thinks he's proving a point.

@Master Bruce

TL;DR: King's an idiot.

[AndyC]

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I haven't read any of his Superman run yet, but that doesn't sound like something Bendis would do. Guy was the king of getting any superhero business concluded in a couple of pages so he could focus on workplace/family drama.

@ErsatzEmperor

Well, whatever the reason for it, they're out of the picture for the foreseeable future (at least until continuity catches up with Doomsday Clock). As is Supergirl, who apparently is going off into space to learn "the truth about Krypton" in regards to the dumb new villain they made up. So that leaves Supes all on his lonesome, except for Jimmy I guess, and the new strong-independent-woman-who-don't-need-no-man fire chief that Bendis keeps devoting pages to.

[Sep]

@Master Bruce

That's because not only is he Batman, he's angst man.

[Morden Man]

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I've found it before on Youtube. Don't know if it's been removed, but it's shown up periodically.

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She might aswell not be, given the amount of backtracking King managed to pull out of his ass in the span of one issue. She's not even the same character she's been for the last thirty-plus issues anymore, and it's for the dumbest "He has to be in pain all of the time to be Batman"-type of edgelordy bullshit reason imaginable.

<Snipped quote by Sep>

Eh, I'll live. Just venting my nerd rage at a great storyline that was essentially rendered a giant marketing con for like an entire year.

SPOILERS

Basically, after building it up for a long time and providing some great forward momentum in their relationship, Batman and Catwoman's marriage is called off because Selina gets cold feet due to what amounts to a 12-year-old's understanding of what makes Bruce tick: She thinks that if she marries him, he'll be too happy to be Batman anymore and leaves Gotham.

Despite the fact that Bruce has had several surrogate sons, a biological son, several surrogate daughters, and a ton of friends and allies that have enriched his life over the years and never hindered his ability to fight crime. The entire point of Batman is that he works through his pain and leaves it behind for the sake of others, otherwise he'd never leave the cave.

Selina being his wife wouldn't have changed a damn thing about that, not to mention would've fixed alot of dumb repetition with the 'Bruce Wayne has a doomed relationship with some random woman' trope, but King's an idiot who thinks he's proving a point.

@Master Bruce

To what extent do you think this is King's decision? Sometimes I suspect that edicts from above are sometimes responsible for very unpopular twists in stories that threaten to change the status quo of big marque characters – and writers are made to wear those changes as if responsible themselves.

I just find it hard to believe that King – who has been fantastic on a lot of other titles – would suddenly become so tin-eared. But I guess weirder things have happened.

[Retired]

None of you are making me want to finally read through the past seven years of DC comics. Thanks for reaffirming my decision not to.

[Retired]

Sometimes I suspect that edicts from above are sometimes responsible for very unpopular twists in stories that threaten to change the status quo of big marque characters – and writers are made to wear those changes as if responsible themselves.

@Morden Man

"Sometimes" seems like a liberal understatement.