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@Ace of Hearts

Why do you call it "the Ukraine"? That isn't the correct way to identify the area.

Also I don't think it is appropriate for you to link a porn site.
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>implying i give a shit
>on either counts

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>tfw people make fun of me implying I have a girlfriend when I do not

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@Ace of Hearts

Why do you call it "the Ukraine"? That isn't the correct way to identify the area.

Also I don't think it is appropriate for you to link a porn site.


This, to the highest degree in the latter. Regardless if you care or not @Ace of Hearts, you are far from convincing anyone here to take you or your argument seriously. It still is in poor taste and perhaps a direct violation of the site.
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Can't wait until @Ace of Hearts is ban for this site for being a shitty person in general.
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>tfw people make fun of me implying I have a girlfriend when I do not

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you're gf is Belarus

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This, to the highest degree in the latter. Regardless if you care or not @Ace of Hearts, you are far from convincing anyone here to take you or your argument seriously. It still is in poor taste and perhaps a direct violation of the site.


>being a nazi is wrong and bad
>"well she said it like a bitch, so lets ignore her"
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I'd actually watch a video of a black man sticking his diddly into my country, n-no homo
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@Ace of Hearts

There is a social contract of give and take, to ignore the elements of free speech and their role in the internet. If you are not going to conduct yourself in a polite manner, do not be surprised when people - even if they agree that Nazism is evil - are against you. No less, my comment was more leveled at the fact you stooped to linking to a site of questionable status in relation to the Guild.
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but what about my freeze peach? ur not censoring me are you, that's super evil

worse than gassing people for being jewish /s
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Heya you spooked peeps. Thought I'd stop by and give my two cents as I literally live right up the road from Charlottesville here in the Appalachian Mountains. Funny enough, many of my fellow statesmen will sort of awkwardly laugh and say things like "Hey, Virginia is in the news!".

Anyway it seems that what happened in the town is a perfect example on how not to legitimize hate groups and boost their numbers. The dirtbags got their permit ahead of time through legal means and had every right to assemble. That's how its always been. In the past, when say, a KKK group got some permit to talk about how "The blacks are ruining this country!" they'd get up on there soap box, start yellin, and everyone would ignore them. Occasionally a crowd might form, but they'd be there to laugh at them and their silly pajamas or counter protest peacefully. The news wouldn't even mention them, and if they did, its probably cause one the members messed up in a funny way or something. It's how we very democratically decided who's bullshit was worth listening too, and who's bullshit was just bullshit.

However, what happened in Charlottesville is how you suddenly give people a reason to think that the crazy might be true. It casts doubt on the current views if they actively try to suppress competing views, as why would they have to if they are right? If they're trying to silence that group, then maybe there is something to what they're saying? So on and so forth. It is just as much as some white nationalist to say is BS as it is for us to ignore them. Of course, in today's PC political culture, that's not the case, and the white nationalists knew it. Groups like BLM or Anti-FA are so easily instigated that all they had to do was show up. Hell, a majority of the participants aren't even from Charlottesville or Virginia! They came from New York and Tennessee.

And at the end of the day, both groups got exactly what they wanted. More fuel for the fire. More young people like me convinced and radicalized. So I am worried and I'm disappointed in my governor for only condemning the racists, because it shows not a firm belief in the law, but a firm belief in loose trends.

Plus it makes my grocery shopping that much more difficult, and Walmart is a enough of a pain in the ass without having to dodge retarded political riots.
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@Ace of Hearts

You are on a privately owned site with a set of rules and expectations written and available for your reading. Owning an account here alone is agreement and consent to those standards. The fact you have yet to receive a ban for your behavior displays very well on the Guild and their tolerance for free speech. However, it does not display well on you as an individual for how you are acting. All of the qualms you take are, to some extent, reflected by your own behavior.

And to add, please cease assuming and asserting the participants are somehow suggesting the real deplorables are not detested by us. Some of us just go further and say other groups are just as guilty, in some cases more, of violence and evil.
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@Skepic I thought you were German or maybe Russian!

First you tell me you are a man, and now you tell me you're American.

How much more do you want to upset me comrade?

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@Skepic I thought you were German or maybe Russian!

First you tell me you are a man, and now you tell me you're American.

How much more do you want to upset me comrade?



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guys look who got banned
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Supporting nazis who Want to kill jews for their faith is bad but supporting commies who want to kill Balto-Slavs and Romanians for being Orthodox is okay?

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and this is coming from someone who has to deal with libertarians every week.


This made me laugh!
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These were some random thoughts that came up to me when I heard about Charlosteville;

In contemplating the causes which may disturb our union it occurs as a matter of serious concern that any ground should have been furnished for characterizing parties by geographical discriminations ­ Northern and Southern, Atlantic and Western ­ whence designing men may endeavor to excite a belief that there is a real difference of local interests and views. One of the expedients of party to acquire influence within particular districts is to misrepresent the opinions and aims of other districts. You cannot shield yourself too much against the jealousies and heartburnings which spring from these misrepresentations; they tend to render alien to each other those who ought to be bound together by fraternal affection. - Washington's Farewell Address

Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people, under an efficient government, the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation, when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.-Washington's Farewell Address

And then some of my own thoughts I wrote;

This nation divides us. Instead of uniting under one alienable cause, we divide and fight among one another. No one is to blame, and we need to stop looking who to blame. We need to start accepting the beliefs and opinions of others. Maybe that's a little idealistic of me to believe that all this needless violence could have been stopped if the media and different organizations and groups stopped inciting people to blame for their problems. I am absolutely disgusted by the violence in this country. I am absolutely appalled and abhor the actions taken by these people. But I am disgusted that we could have stopped this if we remained One People. But we did not. Our nation is becoming an Us Against Them. And I fear for the consequences of this kind of dangerous mentality.

Violence is not just a physical attack. It is one of the mind, one of the body, and the soul. I do not inherently believe in a soul per say, but I do believe violence shakes the very foundation of everyone's core beliefs. There is a rift beginning to form. A crack that I can see in the very foundation. It is either going to erupt in more violence and we cannot patch together. Or it is going to be healed because we came together. But I see a lot of hurt. A lot of frustration and anger beginning to boil. And I fear that people will take the only action they know how. When a regime doesn't hear the word of the people. The word of people becomes bloodshed.
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The nation itself is not what divides Americans, it is the policy of using identity politics and "tribalism", as they have come to exemplify and use it via projection, that has further distanced who and what the people of the United States are. Sadly, there are those who are worthy of blame, namely the people who stand against what ideals the country represents as a union. Their ideologies are incompatible with what others believe and by those virtues, they are willing to divide and cast off anyone, and I do mean anyone, who dares resist what they believe. Their "tolerance" is nothing but pure, unabashed intolerance that has become so deluded they believe it to be anything but that.

There is a war for the hearts and minds of the populace, just as there has always been, yet to date there has never been greater stakes. Unfortunately, it does not require a prophet or visionary to tell you that the conflict you are witnessing is going to need get worse before it can ever get better. The Far Left, the actual Alt-Left, is being heralded as some force fighting for the freedom of the people when, if anything, they are the very tip of the spear driving people apart. To some extent I imagine everyone has seen or at least heard of being unfriended on social media because of political reasons, even "friends" and "family" going so far, with innumerable cases of them being based on false information or a twisted narrative. By twisted narrative I mean the scenario you are seeing now where the President of the United States is being criticized for condemning all forms of radical violence.

If you step back to allow that understanding to sink in for a moment and see what they are advocating instead, that only the "white nationalists" - let us call them what they were in this case as actual Nazis surrounded by a mixture of everything else under the sun on this earth - are to blame. Read the words and understand the choices they are making in them. White nationalists? Does it really matter what skin color they are? How about their gender? Their political alignment? Is nationalism that evil of a word that it requires specific condemnation?

This is why you see people going so far as to divide themselves. In fact, they did so the moment they were certain the game was up. You might recall the "#Resist", "#NotMyPresident", and "He Will Not Divide Us" stories prior to the Russian narrative. Where did these all spawn from? Not from a grass roots origin, that I can assure you. Many of these were funded, blatantly so, to populate the media and manipulate information. Just the other night the Democratic National Committee was caught purchasing Twitter poll votes because they were going to lose. Multiple news outlets are just now posting that the infamous "hack" was an inside operation, a "leak" as they became so fond to call everything. What I am saying by this, is that there are people actively and willfully creating greater division to assert more control and power in it.

It was not always quite this way. The United States has always been a nation that emphasized fierce independence - just review to yourself historically how states operated up until the 1900s and just how isolationist some of them were. Yet at the same time they viewed themselves as a collective, of which you might remember from a familiar saying that is all but extinct now; it was ingrained in many as mere children, despite how relatively recent it is to the nation and its history.

"I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America
and to the Republic
for which it stands,
one Nation under God,
indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all."


For how short and concise the Pledge of Allegiance is, it speaks volumes to how people conceptualized America, even through its several revisions. You could throw out entire portions of it, but as a whole it reiterates "... the United States of America...", "... the Republic...", ".. .which it stands...", "... one Nation ...", "... indivisible..." and "... with liberty and justice for all." There is a pervasive message of unity and oneness in this small address. You can note it throughout American history - there was a war involving it as we are all familiar.

Yet, as we are today, you can see clearly the answer people go to is deceit and disinformation. They are so concerned about pushing their agendas that they are willing to sacrifice a nation's unity and cohesion. We live, as a society and even worldwide, as a far more accepting community in the First World, more than we ever even have been. Despite this, there are overt efforts to drive them apart in a crucial time period. At least half, perhaps now over one half of all American voters according to emerging data, are in support of the notion of "Make America Great Again"; it won a presidency, one that has continued to emphasize the American people over all else.

However, there are those who are still willing to fight that concept, that all Americans should be working together for the United States. In fact, two extreme fringes of these groups showed up to have a brawl in Virginia. Out of the two of them, who received the most negative attention? I can assure you people spent more time arguing how Nazis are evil, because that was ever left to doubt, than focusing on the fact that instigators in both parties led to an escalation of force. This is ignoring the fact that they collectively represent less than a percent of the American population together.

That is why you are seeing so much division. The story is twisted and has been for years. People are just now realizing it or falling prey to it.
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I know I was being metaphorically flower. But it is my point. The media, the organizations such as the white supremacist encourage a divide among each other and their beliefs.

But I also cannot condemn the actions of the current regime. Who are ignoring the fear, the panic, and the pain people have felt after this wake.

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