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Ah crap I just realized I didn't type my first post correctly. I meant a character who's a native resident of the Outside but whose physiology prevents them from entering or interacting with existence. Either way the only use would maybe be as a chronicler of sorts who gathers data on various existences before they're eliminated or something.
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@Caldizar

We actually do have a drawn out map somewhere. I believe LegnedBegins has it.
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Less of a map and more of a concept image, but I made this in Paint in about 5 minutes.
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<Snipped quote by souleaterfan320> @Caldizar

Less of a map and more of a concept image, but I made this in Paint in about 5 minutes.


Ah I see, that makes it easier to visualize.
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Ah I see, that makes it easier to visualize.


As for your idea, I think it's a good one. There does happen to be a group known as the Outsiders who reside Outside primarily, but they're not barred from entering Existence. I think the difficulty with the other half is the idea that Existences (or Planes) are destroyed commonly enough for a group to revolve around that. I imagine that the destruction of an entire Plane is an incredibly rare event (though again, this is mostly uncharted territory so far).
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As for your idea, I think it's a good one. There does happen to be a group known as the Outsiders who reside Outside primarily, but they're not barred from entering Existence. I think the difficulty with the other half is the idea that Existences (or Planes) are destroyed commonly enough for a group to revolve around that. I imagine that the destruction of an entire Plane is an incredibly rare event (though again, this is mostly uncharted territory so far).


Hmm I see. Well the info gather aspect would really happen regardless with such an idea, in the off chance it does get wiped out. As for the barred part, maybe this Outsider did something to an existence or something to offend the others and was banned from interacting with realities for a certain while, during which time they just decided to live in a sort of self imposed exile as a means of atonement, only watching and eventually recording out of boredom. Of course by that point they could theoretically enter a reality, but choose not to at least personally anyway.

Either way, it's just a thought I had.
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Hmm I see. Well the info gather aspect would really happen regardless with such an idea, in the off chance it does get wiped out. As for the barred part, maybe this Outsider did something to an existence or something to offend the others and was banned from interacting with realities for a certain while, during which time they just decided to live in a sort of self imposed exile as a means of atonement, only watching and eventually recording out of boredom. Of course by that point they could theoretically enter a reality, but choose not to at least personally anyway.

Either way, it's just a thought I had.


I like that idea; that's a really interesting concept. Especially if another Plane had someone with that kind of ability.
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<Snipped quote by souleaterfan320> @Caldizar

Less of a map and more of a concept image, but I made this in Paint in about 5 minutes.


Lovely.
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<Snipped quote by Fractured>

Hmm I see. Well the info gather aspect would really happen regardless with such an idea, in the off chance it does get wiped out. As for the barred part, maybe this Outsider did something to an existence or something to offend the others and was banned from interacting with realities for a certain while, during which time they just decided to live in a sort of self imposed exile as a means of atonement, only watching and eventually recording out of boredom. Of course by that point they could theoretically enter a reality, but choose not to at least personally anyway.

Either way, it's just a thought I had.


That couldn't really work because there's no "control group" for a Scale. Each Plane either does or doesn't have one, but the Planes themselves don't have anything that would be able to bar something from entering them, other than the insane difficulty of entering one other than your native Plane. Even the control group of a Plane couldn't kick you out of it, really.
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That couldn't really work because there's no "control group" for a Scale. Each Plane either does or doesn't have one, but the Planes themselves don't have anything that would be able to bar something from entering them, other than the insane difficulty of entering one other than your native Plane. Even the control group of a Plane couldn't kick you out of it, really.


You could just be repelled by empty space, preventing you from entering any of them.
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You could just be repelled by empty space, preventing you from entering any of them.


I think I could make that work actually. Maybe an experiment to tap into the power of the Outside fundamentally changed the experimenter from the other Plane, causing the effect you describe and forcing them to, effectively, watch existences from the vast emptiness of the Outside. And the recording could be out of boredom or some such as, while they themselves can't interact with realities, maybe whatever instruments they use can.

EDIT: Like a sort of trade off. They get the ridiculous power they craved, at the cost of being isolated-for the most part-for all eternity.
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You could just be repelled by empty space, preventing you from entering any of them.


I must ask though how specifically empty space would repel something. Or is this just one of those things where it's Outside things and don't look too deep into it?
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Oh hey, the madman actually did it
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I must ask though how specifically empty space would repel something. Or is this just one of those things where it's Outside things and don't look too deep into it?


Because nothing is really empty when you get down to it. They could be pushed backwards by the fabric of spacetime.

Oh hey, the madman actually did it


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Because nothing is really empty when you get down to it. They could be pushed backwards by the fabric of spacetime.

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He made the character.
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He made the character.


Ah, I see.
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Ah shit, I'm an idiot. I actually forgot about space-time. And Quantum Foam.

I... I have no idea how but I did.

EDIT: Also, about how this figure got there... well assuming Nemid or any other being in the Outside can actually be visited by this being, which my profile may or may not be a representation of, or visit it, then you'll find out. Don't feel like completely spoiling the process of how it got to where it is.
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I must ask though how specifically empty space would repel something. Or is this just one of those things where it's Outside things and don't look too deep into it?


It's not "empty space" for one, it's absolute emptiness. Normal "absolute emptiness" is still a state of Code, this has no Code whatsoever.
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It's not "empty space" for one, it's absolute emptiness. Normal "absolute emptiness" is still a state of Code, this has no Code whatsoever.


Ah I see. So at the most basic of levels Code is within the "empty" spaces in Existence whereas the Outside has none? Just want to be sure I understand this correctly.
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Ah I see. So at the most basic of levels Code is within the "empty" spaces in Existence whereas the Outside has none? Just want to be sure I understand this correctly.


Actually no apparently? Sorry, I was misunderstanding what "Outside" was and ended up describing something slightly different.
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Ah I see. So at the most basic of levels Code is within the "empty" spaces in Existence whereas the Outside has none? Just want to be sure I understand this correctly.


Outside is effectively this "fuzziness" that will try to latch onto anything else that's introduced in the area. Beings who live there (such as the Outsiders) prevent this with special exoskeletons. Those able to resist the physical aspect of it often go insane because it'll latch onto consciousness as well and tear it asunder.
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