the real crime is trying to get people to play league of legends
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its a bit ironic coming from me but be nice to new stupid people. they're new and stupid and this forum is too dead to chase away every stupid new person
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DE POLO OP MIJN BODY ZIT VOL MET BLOED VAN STERVELINGEN TERWIJL IK 8.6 DRINK
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i won't lie i got a foot fetish, but i can never taste defeat
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No, unless you feel personally attacked. I think we triggered Odin. XD
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I don't think Odin gets "triggered". I think he likes to debate things.
Just responding to something I absolutely whole heartedly disagree with. I agree with the general consensus of this thread which is that it is stupid to demand a certain sex to RP with, but then I also think that we should just let the idiot kids have their playground, roll our eyes and not RP with those people.
Or, y'know, you can scream bloody murder and sexism and like I said above, make people think you're one of those people. Probably diminishes the amount of people wanting to RP with you equally as fast.
At the end of the day, this is the real point. It does say a lot about who those people really are, and if this thread is any indication then I think it's really telling that those people don't like to be called out. You kind of proved my point for me, actually.
What's that supposed to mean? Like I said I RP with everyone, of both the male and female variety, regardless of skin color, age or whatever other criteria they may meet. I didn't prove jack shit. That's you putting an assumption onto me.
And please, I never said I wanted or intended to dictate how this forum handles RP or what the forum rules are. In fact, I have said the opposite several times, in case you missed it. This thread is long and I know it's probably hard to keep up but you're going over things that have already been said by others.
I'm just repeating it because you didn't seem to hear it before. Sometimes, people need to be told the same thing over and over again, louder and louder, before it hits them in the head like a brick, and then they get it.
Or, y'know, just keep screaming sexism. Make everyone think you're one of those people.
Also, without actually linking you to the women's shelter I donate to and volunteer at in my hometown, let me just say that it's a proven fact that jealousy and restricting a person from who they talk to online is a huge indication of a partner that is likely to end up becoming even more controlling and violent in the future and my recommendation will ALWAYS be for someone to leave a person like that because jealousy doesn't go away. But this is a separate issue and I spend a good deal of time in real life working with domestic abuse survivors, so feel free to PM me if you want to talk about that. <3
OK ms. goody two shoes, I'm really glad you do all that work for women and all, but that doesn't change the fact that jealousy is a totally normal emotion to feel, ignoring the fact that neither does your volunteer work mean fuck all in the context of a debate. I work at the Defense but that doesn't mean I'm gonna start shouting my opinion of ICBM's off the roof. I'd like to read the study that states jealousy in whatever large or small amounts is objectively correlative with controlling and violence. Frankly I think you sucked that entire 'fact' out of your thumb.
Your recommendation, similarly, doesn't mean jack shit, just like your assumption about me, because it's based on thin air and anecdotes. If you want to advise someone to do that, however, be my guest. It says more about you than me because while you're venting your, quite frankly, stupid opinion, I'll just roll my eyes and think 'wow who would've known people like this exist.' Jealousy doesn't have to go away. Small amounts of jealousy are normal and healthy.
If your significant other never feels jealous, never ever then perhaps you need to consider how he thinks of you. Maybe you're just one of many. Me personally, I'd prefer to be the only one, but from my understanding you have different views of that. That's OK. No outspoken public judgement from me. I'd just ask that you don't judge me either.
'<3'
Give those women in your shelter my regards. I feel really sorry for them. Both for what they went through, and then getting stuck with someone like you. That sucks.
Sincerely, someone who definitely feels jealous sometimes, and is definitely not controlling or violent towards my partner(s).
<Snipped quote by j8cob> It can be morally unacceptable. To a set of morals. Which are subjective. I just don’t agree, by the morals and ethics I adhere to, that it is acceptable. In my view there is a line between what is acceptably discriminatory and what is not.
Guess that means you shouldn't RP with people that do it then.
Kinda in the same way you probably wouldn't shop at a shop that openly promotes racist policy.
Funny how that works.
Is discussing why you find something problematic and addressing it in a general sense necessarily dictating?
I find that she wrote it in a way that sounded entirely dictative and matter of factly for a situation which, as you said, fits only subjective morals and opinions. That is my own interpretation, however subjective that may be. I think my analysis was rather spot on however.
I think in that case instead of discriminating against others the adult and responsible thing to do would be to just not RP smut at all. To be honest, the fact that people are getting MORE bent out of shape about being gender-selective for smut RPs is actually proof to my point that there is something very skeevy and creepy about it. It goes right back to the "treating RPs as a dating service" thing. People should be able to RP with someone without conflating the IC and OOC relationships. The fact that some people can't is a problem. It leads to drama and worse. Sexism is the obvious main issue here, but even if it's not sexism exactly, it's still problematic. If you're playing your male character as being balls-deep in a female character and the RP is going well, why should it ruin it for anyone to find out that your partner is a guy instead of a girl? There is literally no logical or reasonable excuse for being uncomfortable. You're never going to be in a romantic or sexual relationship with your RP partner.
The real question here is "can we all be adults" and the answer I am getting is "no, no we can't."
Well, I think we're lucky that you're not here to dictate how others should and shouldn't RP. (And, additionally, I'm really really glad you're not here to dictate when people should get out of a relationship with someone. Jeez! Imagine your partner gets jealous once. Time to dive the fuck outta there!) You say;
There is literally no logical or reasonable excuse for being uncomfortable.
and you know, I kinda agree, but then it's also people's own business what they select their partners on. I wouldn't be offended if someone said 'I wanna RP with a gay person for my gay RP' because that's their choice. They could have a WILD variety to RP with gay people only. And y'know, if someone said 'I wanna RP with a black person!' I'd find that really strange, but y'know, I'd probably laugh and move on.
Is it 'ableism' if I select my partners based on whether or not they can write two words without spelling errors, or whether or not they can read the English language? Maybe they just never learnt. Sheesh.
If someone's enjoyment of the RP is based on sex of the partner, I find that highly strange and perhaps a bit stupid, but it's definitely not sexism and it definitely isn't 'problematic.' Unless you literally experience mental trauma from this or something in which case, please, seek help. Otherwise, just get over it. It's not your problem. If it bothers you, then you probably wouldn't want to roleplay with people like that anyway, right? So I'd see it more as a pre-warning about who these people really are.
The real question here is "can we all be adults" and the answer I am getting is "no, no we can't."
I don't know, I think I'm an adult. I fit the legal definition and, if I can be bothered, I can respond/behave myself in a mature way. I may not always feel like doing that because this place isn't that serious, but I can.
Also, if you're gonna drive the point home about being an adult, I also would like to ask you not to impose your definition of what is good or bad on others, or when to leave a partner. I think that'd be a pretty adult thing to do here.
I think Nemaisaire is the only one who gave a somewhat halfway reasonable excuse in that maybe someone who is a chick who has a real life dude partner might not want to RP with other dudes because their real life partner would get jealous, which isn't sexism on the RPers part, just some enabling of sexism in their real life partner. (And they should totally get out of that relationship because WTF!)
Agree with the general gist of your post ('just play whatever the hell you want, sex doesn't matter') but I strongly disagree with this, especially the last part. I don't feel it's sexism nor do I feel it's 'strange' or even anything close to that to be jealous if your partner writes with males/females. Especially considering that the roleplays that state, blandly, 'MALES ONLY PLZ!' or 'FEMALES PLZ!' typically are not just your average slice-of-life RP. It's not just me typing out a story about Hank and Bob going to the store. Let's be real about that, too. The people asking for a specific sex are generally there to write smut. And that doesn't really equate to 'but I watch porn, surely writing smut with a 3rd party is OK!?!' because this is interactive and includes a third party.
And yeah, to be real, I can kinda understand getting jealous at that. Jealousy is a normal human emotion. Especially if said partner isn't a roleplayer and/or writer and thus doesn't really understand either way.
So yeah, can totally relate to thinking it's stupid for demanding a certain sex for your partner. But then I also think it's really stupid to instantaneously go 'reee sexism' just because someone would prefer to RP with a woman or man. Seriously, it's not that serious.
ALSO, I'm straight, and I am perfectly fine with writing with males or females. Or whatever else is out there today. It doesn't impact the RP. Not sure how my sexual preference ties into this, though.
ALSO2, I think writing 'I wanna RP with women because it gets my rocks off' should be a perfectly valid reason to RP with women only. Not your business who I do and don't write with.
TIME:A week after the funeral - a week before the expedition message is sent out | LOCATION:Amegakure | INTERACTION: Kaito Chosokabe, @Ganryu; Sayuri Nisshoku, Kareha Yuki, @Write; Havoc @Syn; Kyokotsu/Mizuki @LadyInInk; Nousagi Hyuga, Kurin Senju, @Reflection; Kaijin Otsutsuki, @Seraphicide; Tashiro Hokori, @BladeSS4
With two new sets of arms on her back, Yogensha slid backwards towards the Konohagakure to give herself some space. With Kaito and Sayuri in front of her - for now - she was given all the time she needed while Havoc blew the doors inwards onto their hinges, temporarily blocking access of the Konohagakure shinobi that were attempting to 'help' her. “Not a choice?” she'd roared at Havoc's remark as to her giving the orphans a purpose. “You'd rather we let them die in the hands of the so called 'GREAT' shinobi nations? Some justice!”
It was clear that Yogensha had no qualms about her orphanage organization, and she was quick to defend it. Her hands slapped together - all of them - and she began forming handseals. With three separate sets of arms, and six hands, that meant she could weave several jutsu at once. Once she was finished - which was not as speedy as she would've usually have been, but speedy enough - she held out her arms as discs of spinning wind chakra started materializing, spinning around her index finger which was held against her thumb, as if she were holding a piece of paper very carefully. “Futon! Kaze no Yaiba!”
She slung her hands forwards, launching six large disks of spinning wind chakra towards their two targets - Havoc and Kareha. If they managed to respond and block or dodge them in time, they would quickly be alerted by Yogensha, who had pushed herself past her students, Sayuri and Kaito, very suddenly. Her footsteps were quick and agile - it seemed that she was far less sick at the moment than she had been acting out, but never the less a certain tremble could be detected in her step as she ran for the number one target, Havoc. She had hoped that with the Kaze no Yaiba technique, Havoc would not have had enough time to realize she was coming. In effect, she was using the already quite strong technique as a cover for a personal attack in hand to hand combat.
However, this had the side effect that she'd passed by Sayuri and Kaito, as well as the Konohagakure team, very suddenly and without warning, and they would not be able to keep up with her attack as easily as a well synergized team would've been able to. As she ran towards them she readied four of her hands, balling them into fists, while the lowest set of arms formed new handseals. Her cheeks puffed up as a warning sign to the two criminal S-rank shinobi in front of her, before she moved her head forwards and shot out her technique.
“Suiton! Tenkyū!” she shouted as the water in her mouth formed sharp, senbon-like projectiles. But rather than target Havoc, like they would've likely anticipated, she shot them towards Kareha to prevent her from defending against Yogensha's sudden charge. Another smoke screen, another cover for her attack? Regardless, the techniques were aimed for her vitals - throat and heart - so a defense was required.
When she closed in with Havoc, her left hands lurched back before she sent them forwards, aiming them at Havoc's chest. She had hoped that, with the power of two punches at once, she would be able to push him backwards, and off the balcony to fall downwards. With her two right hands, she intended to block whatever attack he'd send her way. A kick, a punch, it would be accounted for.
If she were successful, and had forced Havoc off her tower, she'd collapse instantly, even when Kareha wasn't accounted for. That'd leave Kareha to the Konohagakure team as well as Sayuri and Kaito to get rid of.
@Syn@Savato@Seraphicide@Reflection@ZeroXposure Allow your eyes to gaze upon the sheet and let me know what you think of the clan. Characters I am interested in playing will be either Itami or Jūyōna.
“Not seeing is a flower.”
【Clan name】
Hanamari clan.
【Village of residence】
Konohagakure no Sato.
【Village of origins】
Konohagakure no Sato.
【Clan specialties】
x Ninjutsu x Shurikenjutsu x Politics x Cultural arts x Logging x Woodcrafting
The Hanamari clan is as ancient as time itself, establishing itself among the first wandering clans of shinobi at an early date in history. They found their place among shinobi by presenting themselves with a strong mastery of jutsu, but above all, an even stronger sense and understanding of shinobi politics. While the Hanamari were renowned as shinobi, they were far more known as people with a penchant for politics. It seemed the Hanamari always knew exactly when to strike, when to make peace, and when to ignore someone. They kept accurate lists of all the known clans, their allies and enemies, and made sure to play these out against each other.
However, that is not to say they are without bad sides. The Hanamari are responsible for the massacre of the Oriwara clan, a clan of shinobi that were renowned primarily for their combination of swordplay with genjutsu. The Oriwara had, mistakenly, assassinated one of the Hanamari and offered payment for the loss of a clanmember. Rather than take this, as the Oriwara had owed up to their mistake in a noble manner, as was becoming of a noble clan, the Hanamari clan decimated the Oriwara clan, which was small in comparison. Although this event has been forgotten by (most) of the clans in the known world, it is a memory that lives on in the annals of Hanamari bookkeeping. Not because it was a bad thing, and they feel a responsibility to bear the burden of it, but because to the Hanamari clan it is a sharp reminder that sometimes, the best option was forgiveness.
Other times, it is a swift cut and a gashing wound.
Ｓｈｉｎｏｂｉ Ｇｏｄａｉｋｏｋｕ
Ｆｉｖｅ Ｇｒｅａｔ Ｓｈｉｎｏｂｉ Ｃｏｕｎｔｒｉｅｓ
During the establishment of the five great shinobi countries, the Hanamari clan found a home in Konohagakure, that contained a lot of likeminded clans such as the four noble clans of Konoha - the Nara, Akimichi and Yamanaka, alongside the Sarutobi's. Furthermore, the addition of the Uchiha and Hyuga, who were both clans with a strong diplomatic ability as well as the Senju, who had feuded with the Uchiha yet come to a diplomatic arrangemenent was a welcome addition. The Hanamari retreated to the back of Konohagakure and remained unbothered by the other clans.
During this time, Danzou and Shima Hanamari were in control of the clan and employed a strict isolationist policy while the clan gathered it's strength during the building of the village. They sectioned off one part of the forest around Konohagakure and established their main compound there, but in due time migrated the military part of the clan into Konohagakure itself, and established a secondary compound there. The civilians of the clan were left behind in the forest compound, and established a warehouse to support their clan's economy. Around this time, the civilians of the clan began a logging and woodcrafting industry, becoming quite expert at maintaining the forest while using it's resources for economical benefit.
Danzou, Shima Hanamari
Ｓａｉｓｈｏ ｎｏ ｓｈｉｎｏｂｉ－ｓｅｎ
Ｆｉｒｓｔ Ｓｈｉｎｏｂｉ Ｗａｒ
During the first shinobi war, the clan contributed large amounts of their clan to the war effort in an attempt to prove a) the loyalty and capacity of the Hanamari clan to the people of Konohagakure, and b) to secure Konohagakure and ensure that the Hanamari clan could continue to prosper within it's borders. For this purpose, a battalion of fifty Hanamari shinobi were provided - run of the mill shinobi between the age of eighteen and fifty with varying ranks. Additionally, a complementary force of twelve genin between the age of twelve and eighteen was provided to perform supporting missions, although that mission directive quickly fell in the water as gaps started appearing in Konohagakures war efforts, and they needed people to fill it.
Danzou and Shima were among the soldiers sent forwards, leading by example. They quickly earned various nicknames among the enemies of Konohagakure, the most memorable of which being 'Konoha's Golden Couple' in reference to their blonde hair.
They were renowned for their capabilities with ninjutsu, and had a good synergy going. However, all good things must come to an end. It was during a charge on the lines of Iwagakure that things went wrong, and both Danzou and Shima found their match at the behest of a misguided and miscommunicated artillery barrage of fire and earth jutsu being fired from the Konoha lines. They were caught in the friendly fire and both died, on the spot.
It could be said by many Konohagakure nin that the Iwagakure shinobi fighting under Seijuro were brutes and savages, but the opposite was true on this occasion. Whether it was a strange attempt at reconciliation or some form of understanding and brotherhood, the Iwagakure shinobi recovered the bodies of the Golden Couple and organized a burial for them, erecting a small shrine that has been forgotten during the ages. Never the less, the memory stands with the Hanamari, and they remember this act of kindness still to this day, sending a large bouquet of flowers every year on the day of death to Iwagakure as a thanks for their actions that day.
It was during these times that a 17 year old shinobi by the name of Higōhō made his entrée into the Hanamari clan, proving his worth during a mission in which they were tasked with taking down one of Iwagakure's explosive corps' headquarters. The grand operation was about to fail, with half the team being killed before even reaching the compound. Someone had tipped them off, it seemed, and now Konohagakure was paying the price. Never the less, Higōhō pressed on and delivered the payload - satchels with hundreds of explosive tags in them - to their destinations despite being wounded.
Higōhō was about to be cornered and killed, however, when Ibuki made an appearance. She was the last surviving member of her own team, and had just managed to deliver their payload to its' destination when she happened upon Higōhō being chased around a room. Not wasting a moment, she came to his aid, and together they killed the Iwagakure explosive expert that was trying to kill them.
Ultimately the mission was a failure - the bombs were not strong enough to cause lasting damage and within a week the explosive corps had recovered from the attack, leaving Konohagakure with many dead and nothing to show for it. However, Higōhō and Ibuki found love, which in itself was a victory for them.
Ｈｅｉｗａ
Ｐｅａｃｅ
Following the disastrous loss of the clan's leaders, the Hanamari clan retreated after the war to continue their isolationist practices. During the war, they had lost a great many shinobi and the numbers of their clan had shrunk as a result of it. Higōhō's brother, Borou, was married off to the Uzumaki clan, where he fathered a young girl. However, this left them with the question who would take over the clan now - Borou had been the primary candidate, but his departure to the Uzumaki clan compound left the clan wondering what to do. Several new leaders were chosen, and during this period of time, Ibuki and Higoho got married. Several years later, Higōhō was elected leader and, in true spirit of himself, he ended the process of 'choosing' clan leaders and made himself the de-facto aristocratic leader of the family.
Higōhō Hanamari
Under his leadership the clan strengthened again, and as happened to his brother, it was insisted upon that Hanamari clan members began marrying outside of the clan to establish ties and connections to all those other clans. Pacts were made with foreign villages to allow envoys from the Hanamari clan to work for the foreign villages as part of a program designed to allow Hanamari clan members to gain experience in foreign countries as well, which was tested first with Iwagakure and then with Sunagakure, where currently two members of the Hanamari clan are serving in the shinobi forces.
Ibuki Hanamari
Ibuki, however, found that her first birth gave extreme complications - she birthed a girl, though this went paired with a near death experience in which Ibuki almost lost her life. They named the girl for that event, Itami, as Ibuki stated that was what she felt. The girl was blessed with a brother not much later - in fact, almost two months later - though it was not quite what one would have come to expect.
As part of a political agreement between the Hanamari clan and the Uchiha clan, a young orphaned boy from the Uchiha clan would join the Hanamari head household to strengthen the ties between the two clans. Since the Uchiha orphan was quite young, the agreement was that Ibuki and Higōhō would simply raise the child as their own and pretend that the Uchiha boy had been born as twins together with Itami. Fittingly, the boy was thus named 'Tsuin.' Thus - as a result, Itami and Tsuin were raised as though they were brother and sister - a secret kept between the two clans that only the most esteemed members of either clan were privy to.
It was hoped, of course, that Tsuin would never unlock the Sharingan in order to ensure that nobody would find out the secret. But, fate often does things you had not come to expect, and Tsuin unlocked the Sharingan at the age of 10. Thus, the secret was uncovered and he was outed as 'Tsuin Uchiha' and not Tsuin Hanamari.
Ibuki and Tsuin
This affair left a foul taste in the mouth of the two clans, who had hoped to strengthen their ties but were now faced with a dilemma. Would the boy go back to the Uchiha clan to safeguard the sharingan or would he be allowed to stay and run the risk of passing on the secrets of the sharingan.
It was decided that, due to the bond Itami and Tsuin had supposedly formed, that he would stay in the Hanamari household but would adopt the name Tsuin Uchiha.
A more misinformed choice could not have been made - Tsuin was left feeling unsure about his identity and grew resentment for the Hanamari family, who he felt had forced him into the situation. He grew more distant and was only part of the family when it was absolutely required - forming himself almost into a parade horse.
Tsuin Hanamari Uchiha
Some years after the revelation, a third child joined the family of four, now five, namely the child of Borou Hanamari, who had married off into the Uzumaki clan. He had died, and his wife had perished some years earlier as a result of a chakra related disease which was untreatable.
The child resulting from that marriage, Jūyōna Uzumaki, was sent to live with the Hanamari clan as an homage to Burou's sacrifice for his family to be with the woman he loved. Jūyōna entered the family as a kunoichi that was already rather accomplished, and took up the name of Jūyōna Hanamari, though it was well known she was a Uzumaki regardless. Becoming the (adoptive) sister to both Itami and Tsuin, the family was 'complete' and was perhaps one of the most mixed families in the entirety of Konohagakure.
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