Let's B!tch. I feel it's a healthy release for our roleplay annoyances 2.0

[KoL]

I mean, when you get to the point of calling people that post on the Bitching Thread as trolls you know that you've reached the deep end of your arguments.

[mickilennial]

I mean, when you get to the point of calling people that post on the Bitching Thread as trolls you know that you've reached the deep end of your arguments.

@KoL

God forbid people vent and discuss things in a critical fashion. With memes in-between for levity. I guess I really am toxic to the guild after all!

[Ammokkx]

>mistaking a post in the bitching thread as being about you while it was actually about a prior locked thread

The whole point of bitch thread is to be able to vent without attacking someone

don't take it as a personal attack

[Todd Howard]

>mistaking a post in the bitching thread as being about you while it was actually about a prior locked thread

@Ammokkx

Yeah, that wasn't about that thread at all.

[Lady Absinthia]

>TMW a person has no problem spending forever getting together a characters skills and history and possessions but god forbid they spend more than ten seconds on their characters personality.

So, during this life of honing such "remarkable" skills and surviving their "tragic" backstory they never once developed a personality? None of these things affected them in the slightest and they are a completely clean slate for you to develop in RP? Right.... Yeah, not buying it. That's just lazy. Sorry, not sorry.

[Dion]

>TMW a person has no problem spending forever getting together a characters skills and history and possessions but god forbid they spend more than ten seconds on their characters personality.

So, during this life of honing such "remarkable" skills and surviving their "tragic" backstory they never once developed a personality? None of these things affected them in the slightest and they are a completely clean slate for you to develop in RP? Right.... Yeah, not buying it. That's just lazy. Sorry, not sorry.

@Lady Amalthea

There's a 20 paragraph backstory about how my character lost both his parents at an early age, took revenge by learning how to be a perfect assassin and then saved the princess by jumping from a dragon into her tower.

His personality? 'He seems dark and angry but he really is nice and just wants friends.'

Yeah.

[mickilennial]

>TMW a person has no problem spending forever getting together a characters skills and history and possessions but god forbid they spend more than ten seconds on their characters personality.

So, during this life of honing such "remarkable" skills and surviving their "tragic" backstory they never once developed a personality? None of these things affected them in the slightest and they are a completely clean slate for you to develop in RP? Right.... Yeah, not buying it. That's just lazy. Sorry, not sorry.

@Lady Amalthea

I tend to prefer personality composites over descriptions for the most part, but yeah, I wouldn't buy that as an excuse that aside.

[Dion]

Yeah, to be honest, you guys are just forcing him to respond here as well and I'd really advise against that.

I want to see a flamewar happen as much as the next one but like, just doing my due diligence in becoming an Roleplayerguild Good-Boy™.

[Meth Quokka]

This thread has always had a tenuous grip to life.

Don't ruin it by bringing up a recently locked thread.

[ArenaSnow]

>TMW a person has no problem spending forever getting together a characters skills and history and possessions but god forbid they spend more than ten seconds on their characters personality.

So, during this life of honing such "remarkable" skills and surviving their "tragic" backstory they never once developed a personality? None of these things affected them in the slightest and they are a completely clean slate for you to develop in RP? Right.... Yeah, not buying it. That's just lazy. Sorry, not sorry.

@Lady Amalthea

While it may well be an act of laziness, which I couldn't judge without context, you don't need to spend forever to make an equivalent length personality. I build functional personalities for roleplay characters from a selection of words to make the core and from backstory/specific events to determine a character's biases and experience. And that is all I need for a solid character.

Some trigger words, biases that influence decisions, and the character's experiences. All I need.

Also, why am I not surprised that this thread is the most immediately accessible outlet for a prior thing.

[mickilennial]

It happens. The thread tends to have traffic migration after forum or chat incidents of note. Some venting is productive, others not so much. It is what it is.

[SleepingSilence]

@Meth Quokka (If you've been given the unfortunate task of clean up duty, I think you should take this into context. Though the vulgarity isn't meant toward you or anyone specifically. Nor does any of the following statement relate to you.)

Yeah, there's nothing I could say that would make the cognitive dissonance flowing anymore preposterous than it already is. But...

Let’s try again:

Stick to the purpose of the thread, that’s enough of the sniping and attacks.

Any further violation will result in Mod action and the closing of this thread.

@Ruby

>*literally a few posts later*

Holy shit. There's some people on here that are so delusional that I fear for them if they act anywhere near the same IRL.

@Raddum

Seriously? Why isn't this thread closed yet? How does that even have to do with roleplaying? Doesn't even use words regarding roleplaying. Why even pretend this is acceptable and not categorize this as an "attack". (Also because, I know this will be a comment if I don't reply. I know and don't care if the comment wasn't related to me.)

"tbh talking to this guy there is nothing to do but flame him"

@Odin

And seriously, I would have just laughed this off and let it slide. But I was literally publicly warned by the exact same moderator telling me "to report forum violations" and then after following said instructions "not to bother them anymore." When I merely (and obviously) sarcastically implied that I may troll people for a reaction. But when someone else, who they clearly like, brazenly just outright state they troll an individual, absolutely nothing is done about it. Yeah, sorry. But gimme a break.

[Ammokkx]

@SleepingSilence read up, sleepingsilence

once again, the quoted quotes were not aimed at you but someone else instead

don't take bitch thread as personal attacks

EDIT: Or, at least, raddum's wasn't.

[mickilennial]

I don’t think accusing a moderator of nepotism fits the theme of this thread, either. Can we please get back on topic?

[Todd Howard]

@SleepingSilence

I am bitching about people that I have to [i]endure roleplays with./i]

I'll bitch about people, but I won't directly call them out anymore because it was starting fights.

Also, since you deleted it:



I told you not to mention me again.

Let the mods handle me if I'm a problem. I told you to not mention me again because I was tired of dealing with you and your love for whoring attention by replying to literally everything to get yourself involved.

I'll bring it up to the mods if you decide to continue going after me yourself.

[SleepingSilence]

@SleepingSilence read up, sleepingsilence

once again, the quoted quotes were not aimed at you but someone else instead

don't take bitch thread as personal attacks

EDIT: Or, at least, raddum's wasn't.

@Ammokkx

And yet, my clarification in my very reply was ignored anyway...

I know, but I don't care either. I also gave @Raddum a polite warning in a separate thread, how to not be randomly hostile to others. And they replied on my visitor messages. (instead of just PMing me like a responsible adult.) Basically, How "they don't care about my opinion because they hate me, so don't @ them ever again." Good for them, didn't care about their existence and point still stands, no matter who said it, the statement was needlessly hostile. And posting that, right after someone warned "no attacks" is as close to mocking a moderator that they can do whatever they please and damn the rules, as you could possibly get.

I'd love and 100% agree that you should be aloud to vent about your roleplaying grievances without people taking it personally and attacking you back, too bad that's never been the case for me. And I can easily show you proof of that...

I told you not to mention me again.

Let the mods handle me if I'm a problem. I told you to not mention me again because I was tired of dealing with you and your love for whoring attention by replying to literally everything to get yourself involved.

I'll bring it up to the mods if you decide to continue going after me yourself.

@Raddum

Edit: Yeah, I deleted it, not like it was suppose to be a secret. Because it wasn't respectful and it was your own attention whoring on my own page. I've literally never done/said anything rude to you previously either, despite how easily it would be to do so.

You literally just broke the mod's warning in less than a page of new posts. You couldn't have at least -even- said "people (who I roleplay with) are _____" to clear up confusion? But again, I'm not "going after you". Now you're going on a blaming crusade, I said before and I'll say again. Doesn't matter who made that comment. It's stupidly timed at best and outright disregarding the rules at worst.

[mickilennial]

I advise everyone involved to ignore Silence's remarks and get back on topic. This thread is a viable relief for a lot of us who have minor issues or grievances that we'd like not to fester or influence us, so I'd rather it not get locked because of any defensive remarks that poise no point but antagonize and accuse others. I'm a little tired otherwise I'd lead with some sort of grievance of my own.

So to amend that, here is an old one of mine:

Can we complain about ourselves and our terrible habits? I think I’m going to do that.

I’m really sick and tired of being in this sort of role-playing purgatory where my creative passion lingers in a dead zone. I’ve never been a better writer than I am now and here I am not actively feeling the same bite I did back a few years ago (let’s say 2007 to like 2010). I mean I’ve tried all the tricks in the book to be inspired consistently and Pach full well knows my inspiration has been flaky in recent years. But every single time it disappears it is for this short ass time. I mean I think 2013 was the most active I’ve been in years for role-playing prose.

I’m also sick and tired of me subconsciously sabotaging and destroying my own role-plays by either activity, arguing, or what-have-you. I love GMing, and as much as I prefer to be a player sometimes it’s not viable. Why can’t I keep anything afloat after I finished the one role-play (saga) I finished a few years ago? It’s like I finally completed a role-play without excessive time-skips and what happens after? Everything fails. Speaking of, I have an apologetic PM to send to two people.

I’m also not sick of “anime” (could you guys find a more trite thing to generalize and complain about, really?) role-plays, I’m sick of ones that are inconsistent or ridden with plotholes as well as quality drops.

As for less self-focused points: I don’t like the way drama always rears its head and ends up killing a role-play through reputation or just squeezing the OOC to an awkward point. But yeah, most of this was in casual role-plays. I had once a guy argue with me that my race restrictions were not appreciated by the “furry community” because I wouldn’t let him write a gary stuish fire-bending dragon in a post-apocalyptic low magic universe! The nerve of me!

I’d also like people to stick to role-plays for longer than a month on end, I know this is a very minority issue as there are months/years old projects in all three of the main role-playing sections. But some of the nice casual role-plays I liked vanished too fast for my own taste.

I’m sick of writing CS’s, but I understand why I need to.

[ArenaSnow]

The weather is absolutely horrible here. Like, wtf.

[Todd Howard]

@Inkarnate

My worst habit in roleplays is my lack of tolerance, honestly.

Sometimes i get triggered by even small things in a roleplay. I get gripped by mistakes that are easily fixable: Broken coding, the lack of grammar when a character is speaking, stuff like that. It kind of takes me out of a roleplay, or at least my interactions with a specific person, causing me to occasionally be a distant person in the RP: Someone not in the OOC much, posting in the IC when I'm ready, ect. I've found groups I'm comfortable with, but even they have things I gripe about. Those people pay attention and respond to me, however, and we end up improving each-other's outlooks on occasion.

I do think it's a serious problem of mine, though it's not something that I find easily fixable. I simply try to not harm others with it; Leaving a roleplay before aggression sets in.

[Ammokkx]

Oh, are we complaining about ourselves now?

I'm basically the same as Raddum, but I skip the 'Leaving the RP before the aggression sets in' step.

I'm notorious for picking fights with people and causing either a nuclear implosion of a thread or getting someone so royally pissed they do everything in their power to get me booted. I'm almost too quick to critique and I tend to not hold myself back too much, which doesn't end well for me most of the time. I need to learn to shut up, but when I do that, I get so incredibly frustrated with everyone else's (perceived) incompetence that I become more of a liability than a boon.